JoeHawkins Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just to start this, I’m a complete novice and have a question. I was recently told my sub should have 4 to 5 times the wattage of my speakers. Now, what I’m wondering is the following. My speakers, Klipsch quartets, have 100 each. My current sub (sw-110 has 200watt) sounds quite good the way I got it set up. But it’s not 4-5 times the wattage. Would I be well served by getting a second set-110 or get rid of mine and get just one with 400-500 watt? I’m confused. I listen fairly loud and haven’t had any issues with my current setup. Just wondering about options and what would be better. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Dual, identical subwoofers are always better than only one. Not only will it increase the amount of bass but they'll help eliminate peaks and nulls in your room. I'd definitely suggest getting another SW-110. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, JoeHawkins said: Just to start this, I’m a complete novice and have a question. I was recently told my sub should have 4 to 5 times the wattage of my speakers. Now, what I’m wondering is the following. My speakers, Klipsch quartets, have 100 each. My current sub (sw-110 has 200watt) sounds quite good the way I got it set up. But it’s not 4-5 times the wattage. Would I be well served by getting a second set-110 or get rid of mine and get just one with 400-500 watt? I’m confused. I listen fairly loud and haven’t had any issues with my current setup. Just wondering about options and what would be better. thanks OP, you just answered your own question. See bold/underlined. It's not broken, don't fix it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, wuzzzer said: Dual, identical subwoofers are always better than only one. Not only will it increase the amount of bass but they'll help eliminate peaks and nulls in your room. I'd definitely suggest getting another SW-110. That’s kind of what I figured too. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, The History Kid said: OP, you just answered your own question. See bold/underlined. It's not broken, don't fix it. No I didn’t. I also thought my two little bookshelves sounded quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeHawkins said: No I didn’t. I also thought my two little bookshelves sounded quite good. So the short response is that you just have the upgrade itch. While it's true that you would generally have a sub that outputs more than your mains, consider the following: How often do you think you're using 100 W of power on your Quartets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, The History Kid said: So the short response is that you just have the upgrade itch. While it's true that you would generally have a sub that outputs more than your mains, consider the following: How often do you think you're using 100 W of power on your Quartets? Yes, well the add-on itch maybe. Just trying to figure it out what would make it just that little bit better. id say I hardly ever use 100. Don’t think I ever have, tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, JoeHawkins said: Yes, well the add-on itch maybe. Just trying to figure it out what would make it just that little bit better. id say I hardly ever use 100. Don’t think I ever have, tbh My point there is that the sub is probably fine in your configuration, but otherwise...the assessment with the 110 is correct. That being said, you will only gain approximately 3 dB with adding the second sub - but with better coverage is all. You would want to look at maybe one of the SPL lines? I think that's the current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, The History Kid said: My point there is that the sub is probably fine in your configuration, but otherwise...the assessment with the 110 is correct. That being said, you will only gain approximately 3 dB with adding the second sub - but with better coverage is all. You would want to look at maybe one of the SPL lines? I think that's the current. If I can’t find a matching one to the one I got, then I’ll do that. Found one online for 300 including shipping. And that’s Canadian $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 That's not a good way to match up a system in my opinion. You could have a fairly low power amp with Klipsch speakers that will hit Reference yet have two 4,000 watt speakerpower amps and it could be perfectly balanced. You could also have a high powered multichannel amp and a single fairly weak amp on a 15" horn and it will scare the bejeezus out of you when the bass hits. Just kind of more to it than that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Paducah Home Theater said: That's not a good way to match up a system in my opinion. You could have a fairly low power amp with Klipsch speakers that will hit Reference yet have two 4,000 watt speakerpower amps and it could be perfectly balanced. You could also have a high powered multichannel amp and a single fairly weak amp on a 15" horn and it will scare the bejeezus out of you when the bass hits. Just kind of more to it than that. I get that. My set up works quite well tho. Just want to put a bit more oomph behind did. for when I get into some ebm. It likes that 😉 Edited October 3, 2021 by JoeHawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, JoeHawkins said: I get that. My set up works quite well tho. Just want to put a bit more oomph behind did. for evening get into some ebm. It likes that 😉 Don't worry about matching subs unless you're running them in stereo IMO just get something big and bad if you want more oomph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, jjptkd said: Don't worry about matching subs unless you're running them in stereo IMO just get something big and bad if you want more oomph. But isn’t that what you do with two subs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, JoeHawkins said: But isn’t that what you do with two subs? More output, more uniform bass coverage in them room. Can fix nulls and peaks and gives flexibility in placement options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, JoeHawkins said: But isn’t that what you do with two subs? Most subs are just wired as LFE channels not true stereo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, jjptkd said: Most subs are just wired as LFE channels not true stereo Yes, that’s how I got mine right now, over LFE. I never really used subs at home so it was the question wether 1 bigger one via LFE sounds better than two smaller ones in stereo. Just wanting opinions on that to see what direction i want to go. Trying to see pros and cons of each. Plus money is a bit tight at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Wattage shouldn't be a decision factor here... A good sub may or may not need a lot of power. I had a sub I built that used a BASH 300 and it had plenty of power to drive my sub out of its magnetic field. Up to that point, that's playing very loud music with a set of La Scala's. If I had an 8" driver that could take 1,000 watts, it doesn't mean I'm going to get what I want out of it with a set of La Scala's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHawkins Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said: Wattage shouldn't be a decision factor here... A good sub may or may not need a lot of power. I had a sub I built that used a BASH 300 and it had plenty of power to drive my sub out of its magnetic field. Up to that point, that's playing very loud music with a set of La Scala's. If I had an 8" driver that could take 1,000 watts, it doesn't mean I'm going to get what I want out of it with a set of La Scala's. But I have Quartets. Never having listened to La Scalas, I can’t compare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, JoeHawkins said: But I have Quartets. Never having listened to La Scalas, I can’t compare 105 dB/w vs 97.5 and the same rated power handling is all you really need to understand. IE: MUCH louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, JoeHawkins said: Yes, that’s how I got mine right now, over LFE. I never really used subs at home so it was the question wether 1 bigger one via LFE sounds better than two smaller ones in stereo. Just wanting opinions on that to see what direction i want to go. Trying to see pros and cons of each. Plus money is a bit tight at the moment. Quartets are a decent sized speaker and solid down to 45-50hz so stereo subs really aren't needed a good LFE or multiple LFE's should be sufficient up to a certain sized room. In a perfect world you'd want stereo subs with the Quartets and a separate LFE or four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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