richieb Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Agree. Bare wire - leaving and arriving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 Good to know. Bare wire will be my next experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Bare wire may be great, but with BFA bananas there’s no worry of the connectors ever loosening as the wire gradually crushes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Lol. Wut? Well, don’t use 10AWG wire then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Evans Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Congratulations on your first La Scalas. Appreciate you sharing your findings. A recap of some so far are: 10AWG pure copper audio wire makes the K-77 sound better. Silent Feet, aka "hockey pucks between carpet and La Scalas makes them sound better. The K55V with new diaphragms and K77 tweeters sound better than the new A-55-G/2 drivers and SMAHL tweeters. The most dramatic upgrades of these are 10 AWG pure copper speaker and terminal wire and an audiophile AC power cord. You can hear the difference between 10AWG and 8AWG in crossovers. Old caps rock, but not with home made spade connectors. Wyvern banana plug adapters sound better, but only for a day. Copper spade input connectors makes speakers sound better even when all the other connectors in the crossovers aren’t copper. Let us know about your bare wire findings too. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 hours ago, soundbound said: Congratulations on your first La Scalas. Appreciate you sharing your findings. A recap of some so far are: 10AWG pure copper audio wire makes the K-77 sound better. Silent Feet, aka "hockey pucks between carpet and La Scalas makes them sound better. The K55V with new diaphragms and K77 tweeters sound better than the new A-55-G/2 drivers and SMAHL tweeters. The most dramatic upgrades of these are 10 AWG pure copper speaker and terminal wire and an audiophile AC power cord. You can hear the difference between 10AWG and 8AWG in crossovers. Old caps rock, but not with home made spade connectors. Wyvern banana plug adapters sound better, but only for a day. Copper spade input connectors makes speakers sound better even when all the other connectors in the crossovers aren’t copper. Let us know about your bare wire findings too. Excellent editorial skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Deang said: Lol. Wut? Well, don’t use 10AWG wire then. I was thinking the same. What I'll do is get 10AWG copper connectors. Wrapping 10AWG around those little screws on the crossover isn't my best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 That's not what I meant, and as Soundbound pointed out, you are doing goofy audiophile stuff with no way of validating what you are hearing. It's okay, we've all been there -- no judgment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Deang said: That's not what I meant, and as Soundbound pointed out, you are doing goofy audiophile stuff with no way of validating what you are hearing. It's okay, we've all been there -- no judgment. I'm used to hearing live drums, guitars, vocalists, etc. The goal is to get my kit to sound like band practice. Composing music is goofy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 You're not going to get there with wire and connector changeouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Deang said: You're not going to get there with wire and connector changeouts. Never thought I would. I'm waiting on a high quality crossover. I also have my new tweeters and mid drivers waiting in the wings. Didn't think the wires and connectors would be an issue, but they were. Fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Deang said: That's not what I meant, and as Soundbound pointed out, you are doing goofy audiophile stuff with no way of validating what you are hearing. It's okay, we've all been there -- no judgment. Validating my findings is unimportant in this exercise. Audio quality is the only measurement I'm using. Ears. Speaking of audio quality, I know you've listened to the ALK CSW-450. What is the sonic difference between the CSW-450 and your crossover, according to your audio standards/ears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 What is “your crossover “? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: What is “your crossover “? Deang designs crossovers for the La Scala et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I slightly modify existing designs since I’m using different parts. I used to be Al’s licensed builder for that design. When he wanted me to make it using cheap as dirt parts, I quit. Still want to know what I think about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Deang said: I slightly modify existing designs since I’m using different parts. I used to be Al’s licensed builder for that design. When he wanted me to make it using cheap as dirt parts, I quit. Still want to know what I think about it? Yes. Inquiring minds want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Deang said: When he wanted me to make it using cheap as dirt parts. Can you expand on the parts so we can determine the quality for ourselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 @pcbiz I am a little south of you. You are welcome to make the trip and listen to another LaScala system to help put things in perspective. Shakey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shakeydeal said: @pcbiz I am a little south of you. You are welcome to make the trip and listen to another LaScala system to help put things in perspective. Shakey Very nice of you. I would Def take you up on an offer like that if I was local to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, Deang said: Still want to know what I think about it? Oh boy, that was already legendary when I found this place about four years ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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