jimjimbo Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 What a legacy…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I was born in the shadow of the Oakland Coliseum. I didn't think he was a good coach to begin with; but, I'd like to know if those emails reflected who he "is" or who he once "was." Makes a difference to me, "am" I a drug addict and still should be treated as such, or was I "once" a drug addict that has changed his path in life? I think where a person is in their own life will determine how a they answer that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxman Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Being a Chiefs fan from KC originally, I have been raised with a certain loathing for all things Raiders. But, I kind of feel for the team and absolutely hate what this does for Gruden's future. Not apologizing in any way for what he communicated at all. But, having experienced my share of having to eat humble pie, he has some really long days ahead for him of reflection, regret, but tremendous potential for personal growth. But no matter where he goes or what he does in life, there will likely be people who will always remember this moment in his past and hold it against him regardless of what he does to grow as a person. And that is sad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Let those amongst you that have not sinned cast the first stone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I was kind of impressed that he (as best I know) resigned near immediately. I view that as taking some ownership of his actions. I can list a L.O.N.G. list of names of people who we could only wish had that kind of integrity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 There have been over 1000 NFL players arrested since 2000 but that's no biggie, just don't put down in writing what you think and you're good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, CECAA850 said: Let those amongst you that have not sinned cast the first stone. That is typical of JJ for you... Narcissism is an ugly trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Schu said: That is typical of JJ for you... Narcissism is an ugly trait. JJ? Edit: I'm not insinuating I'm perfect.. WAY far from it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 21 hours ago, jimjimbo said: Sure. Directed at me? Explain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Let's do this. Show Grudens 10 year old private e mails then publish all the lyrics of all the half time performers that will be performing at this year's Superbowl and vote on what is worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I grew up in Cincinnati, the suburbs of Kentucky. I said and thought things for which I’m now ashamed. The fact that I have “sinned” does not preclude me from calling out others for racist, sexist, mysogonistic, homophobic, etc., remarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, DizRotus said: I grew up in Cincinnati, the suburbs of Kentucky. I said and thought things for which I’m now ashamed. The fact that I have “sinned” does not preclude me from calling out others for racist, sexist, mysogonistic, homophobic, etc., remarks. I totally understand where you're coming from Neil. I just have a hard time busting someone's chops for something I've done myself. As stated above I'm about as far from perfect as you can get. Doesn’t change the fact that what he did was wrong but I have trouble piling on. I also have an issue with the NFLs double standard but that's another thread all together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 9:31 AM, Schu said: That is typical of JJ for you... Narcissism is an ugly trait. Who is JJ? Why are you posting in this thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: Who is JJ? Why are you posting in this thread? Seems like some like to throw cryptic messages out there then never reply with clarification. Weak sauce and passive aggressive in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 6:34 AM, CECAA850 said: Let those amongst you that have not sinned cast the first stone. Fwiw, I don't consider myself a sinner. 6 hours ago, DizRotus said: ... The fact that I have “sinned” does not preclude me from calling out others for racist, sexist, mysogonistic, homophobic, etc., remarks. I can dig it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 If the blind lead the blind will they not both fall in a ditch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Fwiw, I don't consider myself a sinner. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Fwiw, I don't consider myself a sinner. Me neither, but I am a piece of dog crap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Fwiw, I don't consider myself a sinner. Impressive. Edit. Its hard to reply to that without bringing religion into the discussion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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