jason str Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Does Klipsch offer this as a drop in replacement for the older models and if so what is the minimum frequency and slope in order not to burn them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Jason, I guess I'd email Cory at Paducah HT, and/or Klipsch customer service. I'd say those are your best shot at getting some correct information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 I sent Cory a text already for a price on something. Maybe email is better ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, jason str said: I sent Cory a text already for a price on something. Maybe email is better ? I don't know what he prefers. Maybe both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelhead Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Klipsch has policy on selling proprietary parts. They may only sell these to registered AL5 owners as a replacement. Someday they may offer a complete upgrade. But been a while since seeing these kits. The Well documented B&C DE120 is a drop in replacement. The Citation driver now used by Klipsch (reported by people who have seen them) may require crossover adjustments. Crites and DaveA sell horns with these drivers. Installing them made a huge upgrade in my LSII. The new ones used by Klipsch might be even better though. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 Normally just a serial number for Klipsch parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 3, 2021 Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 9:53 AM, jason str said: Does Klipsch offer this as a drop in replacement for the older models and if so what is the minimum frequency and slope in order not to burn them up. It's not going to get you there. It's a neo driver with a wide dispersion modified tractrix horn. You would also need the new AL5 network to make it all work. Roy indicated that, at least initially, upgrade kits would not be available for either the AL5 or the AK6 (same issues). That may have changed, and Cory would probably know. Travis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Future plans calls for no crossover networks Travis but thank you for your response. I was just looking for basic information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 3, 2021 Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, jason str said: Future plans calls for no crossover networks Travis but thank you for your response. I was just looking for basic information. The basic information is this, they don[t offer them as a drop in replacement. Why? Well, that tweeter and horn were part of a major upgrade to the LS, deemed the LS5. You can get the tweeters, you can put them on, and it will suck. I only know this from the class in 2019. These are not interchangeable parts. You can't swap these out. Someone like Tn Mike, JWC, Mark 13 can explain it much better than I can, but it was clear from the class that that the horn lens and tweeter combo got rid of a lot of the beaming, you couldn't localize the speakers. All of that is part of an integrated design and a lot of work was done on the crossover to make the tweeter/horn work with the midrange. That's why they are not offered as a drop in replacement from Klipsch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Travis In Austin said: The basic information is this, they don[t offer them as a drop in replacement. Why? Well, that tweeter and horn were part of a major upgrade to the LS, deemed the LS5. You can get the tweeters, you can put them on, and it will suck. I only know this from the class in 2019. These are not interchangeable parts. You can't swap these out. Someone like Tn Mike, JWC, Mark 13 can explain it much better than I can, but it was clear from the class that that the horn lens and tweeter combo got rid of a lot of the beaming, you couldn't localize the speakers. All of that is part of an integrated design and a lot of work was done on the crossover to make the tweeter/horn work with the midrange. That's why they are not offered as a drop in replacement from Klipsch. Appreciate that, long story short I will rule them out as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jason str said: Appreciate that, long story short I will rule them out as an option. the Tweeter is the Celestion CDX07-1075 Neo magnet ----klipsch add their lens /phase plug........ problem is , it's only sold for OEM's with a large quantity order 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jason str said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, RandyH001 said: the Tweeter is the Celestion CDX07-1075 Neo magnet ----klipsch add their lens /phase plug........ problem is , it's only sold for OEM's with a large quantity order Have a second hand pair of Crites tweets, motor hits the top of the cabinet so I slightly angled the lens install. May brick wall the K77s if I can find good diaphragms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, jason str said: May brick wall the K77s if I can find good diaphragms. I found a 80's NOS Pair of EV T35 square magnet not too long ago , they sound amazing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 hours ago, jason str said: Have a second hand pair of Crites tweets, motor hits the top of the cabinet so I slightly angled the lens install. May brick wall the K77s if I can find good diaphragms. The CT-120 have a small neo-magnet and should fit easily they are the best sounding tweeter that I have heard in that size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 8:57 PM, jason str said: Have a second hand pair of Crites tweets, motor hits the top of the cabinet so I slightly angled the lens install. May brick wall the K77s if I can find good diaphragms. They fit mine with a little (very little) room to spare. I'm sure the newer builds from Klipsch are more precise. Mine were '89s. What year are yours? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 7:09 PM, jason str said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 14 hours ago, Marvel said: They fit mine with a little (very little) room to spare. I'm sure the newer builds from Klipsch are more precise. Mine were '89s. What year are yours? Late 70's Lazer badges. They work fine but it bugs me knowing they're off angle a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, jason str said: Late 70's Lazer badges. They work fine but it bugs me knowing they're off angle a bit. Shave the wood - slightly - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, jason str said: They work fine but it bugs me knowing they're off angle a bit. I think a bunch of folks had to shave a little off the underside of the tops to get them to fit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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