Vectra Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I like Roon. I use it for organizing my disc collection but I also integrate Qobuz for streaming. I like organizing my collection for surfing the various versions. It takes some time for the complex collections like King Krimson with big boxes. I also like tagging for easy sorts like all my MFSL or all MFSL Gold or Deluxe Editions, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I have yet to try the system out, but am realizing as I research that the interface and vast informational data greatly beats anything JRiver does for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I have been working on setting up Jriver house wide in order to be able to compare Jriver with Roon. Jriver is somewhat difficult to get it to work properly with the various endpoints. I am a long time Jriver user and it is still difficult to get the settings correct or.....even to find which settings affect what. Yesterday I loaded Roon. Initial impressions are: - Much more elegant interface than Jriver - Roon does a much better job of getting cover art and organizing my library - Roon is way better at discovering and analyzing the endpoints and their capabilities. - The Roon remote on the iPad is light years ahead of what Jriver offers to control the 'core' system So far, I'm very impressed with Roon, with the great exception of the price Roon demands. I guess, you get what you pay for. I hope to do some listening comparisons today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious2 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I've been running Roon Server for NAS on my QNAP TVS-872XT with SSD for the Roon database for about 2 years. Hard to beat the Roon GUI and convenience of having my local collection instantly accessible searchable sequencing. Sound is excellent and performance over my LAN really quick. Biggest drawback for me is it won't play my extensive surround sound tracks natively. For that I would need a multichannel certified Roon endpoint. Even my otherwise great for MCH Oppo 203 and 203 clone will only do 2 channel in Roon. The MCH tracks play downmixed with a lot of "f*ckery" (as pbphoto puts it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Interesting. Thought there was a setting, advanced or otherwise, which allows you to set the output from the core to the endpoints. IIRC, the default was set to 2, but I was able to change it to 7.1, which my main system supports. Of course, I could be totally out to lunch since I am very much new to the software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbphoto Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I don't know much about Roon multi-channel, but here's a help guide that may help: https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/multichannel#Overview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rplace Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 10 hours ago, pbphoto said: I don't know much about Roon multi-channel I don't either but from what I've gathered reading on the roon forms there are a handful of DACs with multiple chips on them specifically designed for 5.1. with a little work you can make it happen. My take on it is there is nothing like pointing roon at your oppo and it just working. You need a specifically designed outboard DAC. I'm mildly interested in it but don't have enough multi-channel files to really pursue it. I know lots of people like it but to me multichannel music especially something like dark side of the Moon that wasn't meant to be that way feels gimmicky. Kind of neat at first but the novelty wears off quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I have been a diehard fan of Jriver for many years. It has been my go to system to play my digital library. However, the elegance and simplicity of Roon is going to make it really hard to go back to Jriver. I know that Roon cannot play my .iso files, so will have to figure out how to convert those to a format Roon can read and play. I may just have to bite the bullet and at least sign up for a one year subscription. This really is a well written and executed piece of software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rplace Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, Rudy81 said: I know that Roon cannot play my .iso files PM me. I can explain how to extract ISOs to DSD files roon can play. Easy peasy. Have you figured out how to use Focus? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious2 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Eureka! Nothing like achieving something new with existing resources. After a little research I found someone who was getting MCH in Roon not over the LAN but HDMI direct. Got it working on my HT system in the basement where the NAS is near my Oppo 203. I plugged a generic too long HDMI cable from NAS out to Oppo in and configured it as follows. Convert to PCM was the only method that worked. I then found my MCH files would play - DSD64 with alot of "f*ckery" as shown by this Empire Brass track but FLAC 48kHz 24bit 6ch very unmolested! They both sound great. Now if I can just figure out how to get an HDMI connection from the basement NAS to my living room! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 9:40 PM, Delicious2 said: Now if I can just figure out how to get an HDMI connection from the basement NAS to my living room! You can get hdmi to cat5e/6 extenders that can do up to 7.1 audio. Not running over your network, just using the cat5/6 as the medium. I believe some will do 4k video as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy81 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Marvel said: You can get hdmi to cat5e/6 extenders that can do up to 7.1 audio. Not running over your network, just using the cat5/6 as the medium. I believe some will do 4k video as well. Yes, you can do up to 4K video via Cat6 to HDMI. I have used the OREI 1x8 HDMI extender to duplicate surveillance 4k video to various monitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious2 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 11:09 AM, Rudy81 said: Yes, you can do up to 4K video via Cat6 to HDMI. I have used the OREI 1x8 HDMI extender to duplicate surveillance 4k video to various monitors. Wow, thanks for the help on this guys. I bought the monoprice Blackbird set and switched one of the 2 cat5 lines I had running from my basement rack to the living room rack from carrying the LAN to dedicated HDMI->cat5->HDMI. It immediately worked just as well as the HDMI direct connection! Even better, the Monoprice receiver HDMI output plugged right into my Anthem AVM60 and got the decoding pictured above - NO OPPO 203 NEEDED! I'm a happy camper with my whole MCH collection available in Roon in my living room/work space. For years I thought I'd need a dedicated Roon MCH endpoint like an ExaSound, but, NOooo! Don't even need the Oppo for this access. The QNAP NAS HDMI output serves as its own MCH endpoint and works great plugged into any old processor/receiver HDMI input. (edit: I've only tried it on my AVM60) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rplace Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Delicious2 said: The QNAP You need to put a Beets Docker/Container on that QNAP and start obsessing over getting each and every directory/file named and tagged to the nth degree. I have not slept in a week. Loads of time wasting but perfect for the obsessed music fan. I went form this.... To This!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrider 6 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 For the OP… your M32 has BluOS, which is much like Roon. Have you tried using the Bluesound setup without Roon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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