ssh Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I had a flat tire on I20, at night, about half a mile from the state police station in Bossier City, LA. The door was open and the interior light was on. You could see that I had a full rack of clothes over the back seat. A Lincoln occupied four times slammed on the breaks and stopped 20 yards in front of me. A man walked back to my car in an overcoat with his hands in his pockets. I left the holster in plain view on the driver's seat. He asked me, "Hey, man you got any water?" I had a .45 in hand behind the bad tire as I took it off. I looked up at him and said, "No, water is not what I have." He knew he was vulnerable and walked back to his car. I have no doubt that he would have shot me other than seeing that I had a bigger gun than he had. I would have killed him rather than be killed. SSH 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 ^^^^^ In that scenario you’re equipped, aware of your vulnerability and prepared. In a retail environment where instead of pulling out a wallet the “customer” pulls a gun, pointing it in your face from a couple, three feet. Faced with that, options are few, particularly when you’re instantly cast into self-preservation mode - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssh Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 You're right, Rich, which is why many people observe and are prepared...always. SSH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, richieb said: You’re alone in a store, two masked guys come in who certainly don’t have the look of a “consumer”. Clerks mind is going a mile a minute. What’s he supposed to think when the guy jumps the counter? He didn’t jump to shake hands. And there lies the problem with a jury who has no earthly idea of how/what one thinks and reacts in this situation. I was robbed at gunpoint many years ago and trust me, the thoughts running through your mind can’t truly be understood by a jury. Particularly when you’re taken to the back room and pulling the phone cord from the wall. Well - is this it, is it over - ? Now, many years later and all growed up, I’m with SSH - I’d soon blow the f’ers head off - The clerk was calm until the idiot decided to 'flex his power' by coming back. The clerk looked like he went into panic mode when the two idiots jumped the counter and he just reacted. His composure completely changed. He did stop stabbing moron #2 long before killing him. Being robbed sucks, you don't know what will happen or if you will be shot and being second guessed by prosecutor and then a jury is not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 ✝️ ✝️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 From what I can find the guy is alive. I cannot find anything that mentions death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, geezin' said: From what I can find the guy is alive. I cannot find anything that mentions death. Hopefully he survives and straightens his life out I would not wish death on him for what he did but at the same time I do not blame the store owner either for his reaction. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 never leave them alive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Yeah when we make bad choices we get bad results. Personal experience learnt me dat. Damn Schu what made you so hard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK Thom Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 He was calm and focused, this is not a bad thing. We also don't know how many other times he has been robbed. We see all too frequently, hairballs shooting store clerks even after they have complied and handed over money. Scary situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 7 hours ago, jjptkd said: Hopefully he survives and straightens his life out I would not wish death on him for what he did but at the same time I do not blame the store owner either for his reaction. Best result here is no permanent damage and everyone moves on and these kid get on a better course in life. The shop looks nice, but this happened is a kind of bad part of town, by no means the worst, but I will go there during the day if I must, but avoid it at night as there seems to be murders and killings in that area over the years in the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Hmmmm That's a tough one to call. Know what it looks like, then it looks different. Do not know how the Police are allowed to respond there now either. Glad it's not my mess either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, JohnJ said: Hmmmm That's a tough one to call. Know what it looks like, then it looks different. Do not know how the Police are allowed to respond there now either. Glad it's not my mess either way. There was a shooting in a room at the Mirage last week. This is a very nice resort on the LV strip. Private matter between some rough people or maybe a bad drug deal, but if people get their news from clickbait headlines they will think that people are just shooting tourist. The DA needs to let this one go, there is a huge industry to protect and LV cannot be seen as letting criminals do what they want. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Movies have cemented that resort into my mind forever. Think it was a 007 movie and diamonds in the sky without Lucy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-police-arrest-3-juveniles-in-smoke-shop-robbery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 8/7/2022 at 7:24 AM, geezin' said: Yeah when we make bad choices we get bad results. Personal experience learnt me dat. Yup me dos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Marvel said: https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/las-vegas-police-arrest-3-juveniles-in-smoke-shop-robbery/ No intentionally, just being sloppy, but this story is not accurate. Who is the third juvenile? I only counted two. Then they say only one jumped the counter. Is this a clerk or the owner? This is also a very bad idea. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!! This guy needs to consult a criminal attorney. “I don’t think he planned on getting stabbed that day obviously, but if you try robbing a store you are taking a risk,” Nguyen said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: This is also a very bad idea. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!!! This guy needs to consult a criminal attorney. “I don’t think he planned on getting stabbed that day obviously, but if you try robbing a store you are taking a risk,” Nguyen said. I 100% agree, thought the same thing when I read the article chances are this won't escalate doesn't fit the narrative for gun control in any way if this happened in a heavy blue state where they criminalize self defense that would be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: Is this a clerk or the owner? TV 11 says Nguyen is the owner. Channel 3 says: On Monday, police said the robbery is currently under investigation and confirmed three juvenile suspects were arrested in connection to the crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff. Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 ...you got a permit for those nail clippers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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