MMurg Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Hi All, While I'm waiting for the Celestion Axi2050 to come back in stock so I can make my single Belle Klipsch two-way, I was contemplating replacing the K-77-M with a Crites CT-120 to see if that makes it useable until the modification. My major objection to the stock sound is the roll off of the K-77. However, since the Belle has a brace attached to the top board not too far back from the motorboard, I'm not sure if it will fit. I'd rather not do any modifications that I'll have to undo when I convert it to a two-way. So, if it doesn't fit, I probably won't bother. The point is that I need the overall length for the CT-120 horn/driver assembly. If someone who has one could please take a quick measurement, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Buy Daves’s SMAHL It sounds better, and it will probably buy you more room too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2.5" 64 mm Crites horn 1.25" 32 mm DE-120 driver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Racer X said: 2.5" 64 mm Crites horn 1.25" 32 mm DE-120 driver Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Crankysoldermeister said: Buy Daves’s SMAHL It sounds better, and it will probably buy you more room too. Where does one obtain one of these? How do they compare pricewise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Khornukopia Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 6 hours ago, MMurg said: While I'm waiting for the Celestion Axi2050 to come back in stock so I can make my single Belle Klipsch two-way, I was contemplating replacing the K-77-M with a Crites CT-120 to see if that makes it useable until the modification. My major objection to the stock sound is the roll off of the K-77. Do you have an electronic crossover for your center channel, so you can bypass the old OEM capacitors in the tweeter section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Khornukopia said: Do you have an electronic crossover for your center channel, so you can bypass the old OEM capacitors in the tweeter section? I do have a Xilica XP-2040 that I will be using for the later modification. Unfortunately, I only have two amplifier channels available. So, I can't do an active tri-amp. I'll just try it with the OEM crossover. If I don't like what I hear, maybe I'll buy new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 you're considering to replace a mid with a tweeter for the time being? how about this... it is a AMT, it's what I use. tpl200 8ohm 104db 1000-23,000Hz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, MMurg said: I do have a Xilica XP-2040 that I will be using for the later modification. Unfortunately, I only have two amplifier channels available. So, I can't do an active tri-amp. You can bi-amp your Belle. One channel to power the tweeter only with the high pass set at around 5000Hz and the other channel to power the passive crossover feeding the woofer and mid-range. This will also allow you to EQ the tweeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: You can bi-amp your Belle. One channel to power the tweeter only with the high pass set at around 5000Hz and the other channel to power the passive crossover feeding the woofer and mid-range. This will also allow you to EQ the tweeter. Do I need to EQ the CT-120? According to Michael Crites, it's a drop-in replacement for the K-77. I was just looking at quick changes I could make for the short term. I wasn't looking to do a bunch of work just to redo it when the Axi2050 finally comes. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 look for another modestly priced 2" driver with a Ti Diaphragm on parts express for sound matching... or a used k691 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Schu said: look for another modestly priced 2" driver with a Ti Diaphragm on parts express for sound matching... or a used k691 I'm not looking to replace anything but the tweeter for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 oh... I am sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you has that 510 horn in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 The DE-120 is beyond a drop in replacement for the K77, no other change needed for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Schu said: oh... I am sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you has that 510 horn in place. Not yet. I'm waiting for the Axi2050 to come in before doing any major conversion. Since Parts Express pushed the estimated date back on it, I thought of just trying this quick and dirty change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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