Emile Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Peter P. said: Is there any reason why you can't just use the old PC's hard drive as the boot drive? If so, you would need to do nothing but power up the PC and go. Actually, above is a quote from @Coytee, but could not find it No; you cannot use your old drive as a boot drive for the new PC. The boot drive is configured for all components in your "old" PC ... it won't even recognize the new one. It will only work on 100% identical machines. If you want to try it go ahead ... you will not harm anything. As an aside, I recently put a cloned drive from a Lenovo Thinkpad T470s into an Intel NUC. Haha; it worked - and I have NO explanation as to "how." It even updated the Win10 files. But, after restarting it several times it started going slower and slower and finally did not boot at all. But, I had sold the Thinkpad about 3 months ago and figured out Microsoft probably (as well as the buyer) would not be happy with me running a COPY of Win10 So; reloaded it with a new Win10. But; still perplexed that it worked. Haha, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Also, be aware of the shelf life. But if you are going to just use it for some word processing and internet, just pun linux on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: just put linux on it Pretty steep learning curve for someone who is not very familiar with PC's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: Does it have Win 10 pro and if not what will it cost to get a copy? I think he said he installed a (legal) copy of Win 10. I don't know if pro or not (or if they're all the same and that's just a name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coytee said: I think he said he installed a (legal) copy of Win 10. I don't know if pro or not (or if they're all the same and that's just a name) Check the end of support for the version that he installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coytee said: I think he said he installed a (legal) copy of Win 10. I don't know if pro or not (or if they're all the same and that's just a name) System, settings, about or system information. Will tell you what version and if it's legit or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: Does it have Win 10 pro and if not what will it cost to get a copy? You can get Win10Pro for about $20-30 for a legal copy. Usually these are either recycled versions or versions given to developers (which they are NOT supposed to sell - but completely legal for use). Haha; do NOT buy the $1 ones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said: System, settings, about or system information. Will tell you what version and if it's legit or not. (thank you I was wondering where to look) Device name DESKTOP-R6JMPVA Processor Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5460 @ 3.16GHz 3.16 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB Device ID 97BE231B-DC9A-4631-B6BA-6AFE531E7DB8 Product ID 00330-80000-00000-AA071 System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display Edition Windows 10 Pro Version 20H2 Installed on 8/13/2022 OS build 19042.631 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.31.0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 The mouse I had with old pc, doesn't work well with this one. It found it and downloaded the drivers for it and keyboard but it still doesn't always work (lag) My other mouse, for my work PC, has a "1,2,3" button and if I have it on 1, my work pc (mouse) works, if I have it on 3 then it works fine on this new one. So I'm still figuring out what to do there (I have others that are corded, I might plug one of them in) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 @Coytee ... you are just fine After a while you will get notified for a (major) upgrade to version 21H2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Coytee said: The mouse I had with old pc, doesn't work well with this one. It found it and downloaded the drivers for it and keyboard but it still doesn't always work (lag) My other mouse, for my work PC, has a "1,2,3" button and if I have it on 1, my work pc (mouse) works, if I have it on 3 then it works fine on this new one. So I'm still figuring out what to do there (I have others that are corded, I might plug one of them in) Order new wireless Logitech or other brand wireless mouse and keyboard. All should be PNP and not require drivers for the most par. Try a different USB port perhaps or several prior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Westcoastdrums said: I beg to differ. Bought a dell xps almost fully loaded after one of my custom pcs died and I didn't feel like fixing / upgrading for once. Couldn't been happier. 16 core, 32 ram, Onboard graphics as I don't need anything else for this setup. Couldn't be happier. Rock solid and got an incredible deal on it. Far cheaper than I could build for (granted those would be "name brand parts as opposed to generic) You'd be one of the few since there's thousands of reviews out there (myself included) on the poor build quality and bad air flow regulation on the 8930's and 8940's. 8940's were shipping out right and left with bad hardware that wasn't compatible with itself and disabled hyperthreading on processors where it was advertised. Just bad overall architecture and parts that weren't built to last longer than you could throw them. Dell has had a terrible track record in the consumer market for many *many* years. Worse so for individuals who needed customer support. The days when they built them "like tanks" hasn't been around since the days that Dimension Desktops were a thing. And if that's what you're getting at, then I'd agree, they were built well and were tanks. Hasn't been that way since that line was discontinued though. The only reason industry is using those machines (Dells) today is because they're cheap - cheap enough that when they break (and they do and will) it's easy enough to just replace them than pay for support to sustain them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, The History Kid said: You'd be one of the few since there's thousands of reviews out there (myself included) on the poor build quality and bad air flow regulation on the 8930's and 8940's. 8940's were shipping out right and left with bad hardware that wasn't compatible with itself and disabled hyperthreading on processors where it was advertised. Just bad overall architecture and parts that weren't built to last longer than you could throw them. Dell has had a terrible track record in the consumer market for many *many* years. Worse so for individuals who needed customer support. The days when they built them "like tanks" hasn't been around since the days that Dimension Desktops were a thing. And if that's what you're getting at, then I'd agree, they were built well and were tanks. Hasn't been that way since that line was discontinued though. The only reason industry is using those machines (Dells) today is because they're cheap - cheap enough that when they break (and they do and will) it's easy enough to just replace them than pay for support to sustain them. Easy enough then, worst case scaneario, I'll pay $60, swap the CPU cooler and call it mission accomplished. Bios is fully updated, hyperthreading was enabled out of the box, overclocking is available for "k" processor in BIOS (no need). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 22 hours ago, Westcoastdrums said: overclocking is available for "k" processor in BIOS (no need). No it's not. It hasn't been since the 30-series. Dell's BIOS hasn't allowed for any overclocking or board modifications since at least then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 OK you know best. It's a setting in bios that is currently disabled and allows a multiplier once enabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, The History Kid said: No it's not. It hasn't been since the 30-series. Dell's BIOS hasn't allowed for any overclocking or board modifications since at least then. Incorrect. Exactly as I stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Westcoastdrums said: Incorrect. Exactly as I stated. Not a 30 or 40 series BIOS. Or did you miss that part of my comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 hours ago, The History Kid said: Dell's BIOS hasn't allowed for any overclocking or board modifications since at least then. This is what I replied to. Was just giving my 2 cents on a Dell I happened to purchase that I am content with. Had a hassle free return window but I won't be sending it back. Anyhow, carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 We've had really good luck with Dell for many years. I've bought the last few from the Dell Outlet. As far as support for 10 getting dropped soon, I have not been affected by that sort of thing so much? For example, I'm still using XP on one machine for a music server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invidiosulus Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 11 hours ago, JL Sargent said: We've had really good luck with Dell for many years. I've bought the last few from the Dell Outlet. As far as support for 10 getting dropped soon, I have not been affected by that sort of thing so much? For example, I'm still using XP on one machine for a music server. Microsoft says the retirement date for the final release of windows 10 is Oct 14, 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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