captainbeefheart Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 $44 bucks to do my E networks, CDE polyester and foil axial for those that don't want metalized types https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cornell-dubilier-electronics-cde/WMF2W2K-F/1930479 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeefheart Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Datasheet for all interested parties: https://www.cde.com/resources/catalogs/WMF.pdf Typical foil properties of high pulse strength, fast rise time and high current. The thicker film layers have some advantages to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said: Nice 2's and 13's are impossible to find Sorry, but I have to disagree, they are easy to find. Yes, prices are up, but what else is new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Show me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 No matter. If/when I decide to do this, I will go with Tecate. If the MOQ’s are too high, I will go through Jim at JEM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said: No matter. If/when I decide to do this, I will go with Tecate. If the MOQ’s are too high, I will go through Jim at JEM. What series Tecate? I'm checking them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Curious_George said: What series Tecate? I'm checking them out. Are they related to the beer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeefheart Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I wouldn't say they are easy to find, you certainly have less options for non-standard values but they are out there. The toughest one is certainly 13uF. One could always parallel an 8.2uF and 4.7uF to get darn close enough to 13uF. Panasonic ECQ polyester caps I was using in amplifiers for a while and they are fantastic. They are metalized but so isn't the JEM Tecate caps. Best part is all 4 caps to do two networks is only $10. https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/panasonic-electronic-components/ECQ-E2475KF/56516 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/panasonic-electronic-components/ECQ-E1825JF/2567785 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said: No matter. If/when I decide to do this, I will go with Tecate. If the MOQ’s are too high, I will go through Jim at JEM. Seriously, what series Tecate? I want to investagate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 https://www.tecategroup.com/products/datasheets/film/901.pdf Again, notice how 2uF, 3uF, 5uF, and 13uF are non-standard values. These are wound for Klipsch and not listed on their data sheet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, captainbeefheart said: I wouldn't say they are easy to find, you certainly have less options for non-standard values but they are out there. The toughest one is certainly 13uF. One could always parallel an 8.2uF and 4.7uF to get darn close enough to 13uF. Panasonic ECQ polyester caps I was using in amplifiers for a while and they are fantastic. They are metalized but so isn't the JEM Tecate caps. Best part is all 4 caps to do two networks is only $10. https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/panasonic-electronic-components/ECQ-E2475KF/56516 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/panasonic-electronic-components/ECQ-E1825JF/2567785 I have used similar caps as these Panasonic's in crossovers and I thought they sounded pretty good. However, in some audio circles, these type of caps are "crap" and you're an idiot if you think they are good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeefheart Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Curious_George said: I have used similar caps as these Panasonic's in crossovers and I thought they sounded pretty good. However, in some audio circles, these type of caps are "crap" and you're an idiot if you think they are good. They are only "crap" because the price is so low. Panasonic makes and sells so many the price gets lowered, it has nothing to do with the quality. I'm sure you are aware of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said: https://www.tecategroup.com/products/datasheets/film/901.pdf Again, notice how 2.0uF, 3uF, 5uF, and 13uF are non-standard values. These are wound for Klipsch and not listed on their data sheet. I can't imagine this particular metallized polyprop cap is anything special compared to a WIMA or other good name brand metallized polyprop cap. Bennic private labels for a lot of customers and they seem to have a good reputation for OEM's. What led you to these caps Dean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 They are what Klipsch uses. They are 5% tolerance, come in the exact values I need, and are available. That’s all the “special” I need for this. Also, keep in mind that if I’m going to advertise a “Klipsch” network - well - along with the parts, there is a certain aesthetic that goes along with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said: They are what Klipsch uses. They are 5% tolerance, come in the exact values I need, and are available. That’s all the “special” I need for this. Also, keep in mind that if I’m going to advertise a “Klipsch” network - well - along with the parts, there is a certain aesthetic that goes along with that. Ah, ha. I see know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, The Dude said: Just seen one of those the other day. Don't know if it was well kept or restored, but dang it looked great for its age. they even had a Diesel Chevette , a mileage champion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) ......... Edited August 30, 2022 by OO1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billybob Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Overcoming objections not always easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, billybob said: Overcoming objections not always easy. I just assumed that if someone went to Dean for a crossover, the deal was way past the “selling” phase. Maybe not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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