Painful Reality Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I keep reading reviews about Klipsch Heritage not doing depth. Well true if you have these in a conventional setup close to the wall. I’ve ran a pair of Klipsch Forte III in my listening room in a fairly unconventional setup where there were 1.8m from the wall and the imaging and depth were simply incredible. Obviously, there is no free lunch and such a setup does require a pair of REL T9i subs to complement the bass. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Yes, there is a compromise between imaging and bass response dependent upon distance from the walls. In my room, about 4 feet from the front wall, toed in 45 degrees provides the balance I seek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWelsh Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Nice looking set up! Are your Fortes on wheels? I'm still tinkering with my Forte III set up. I currently have them about 18" from the wall and slightly toed. I can't say the depth is incredible, but there is some, and I get enough bass without a sub to make me happy. I'm using a Nelson Pass ACA and the imaging is great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Painful Reality said: I keep reading reviews about Klipsch Heritage not doing depth. My experience tells me room, positioning and equipment matching all can really make huge differences. With my current set up if I run my Sunfire Ultimate Receiver the soundstage is very flat, 2-dimensional but if I swap that out with my Pre / Carver tube amp there is significant depth to the soundstage without moving my speakers at all, they're currently about 12 inches off the front wall but about 6 feet from either side wall. I get plenty of bass and good depth. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painful Reality Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, CWelsh said: Nice looking set up! Are your Fortes on wheels? I'm still tinkering with my Forte III set up. I currently have them about 18" from the wall and slightly toed. I can't say the depth is incredible, but there is some, and I get enough bass without a sub to make me happy. I'm using a Nelson Pass ACA and the imaging is great. My Forte were 1.8m from the back wall (about 6 feets). Depth was incredible. I did mount these on Isotek Gaia II isolation feet. It did help a lot with reducing the cabinet resonance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Painful Reality said: fairly unconventional setup flawless setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painful Reality Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, OO1 said: flawless setup I would not saw flawless. I was using the Forte in a way these were not really designed to be used. The main issue was the proximity to the side walls. Despite this the was an awesome setup that did put a huge smile on my face for two years. I recently had a change over and got a Pass Labs INT60 and a pair of Sonus Faber Electa Amator III. And this setup is mindblowing. The smaller size of the Sonus Faber integrates better in the room. This is my holographic setup for studio albums while my Cornwall IV are for my live, kick in the guts setup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Depth and height are amazing on Heritage speakers when set up correctly. With my Heresys, sound appears to come from a significantly higher and wider area than their size. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Painful Reality said: this setup is mindblowing. 10k$ speakers can do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I am not a huge fan of boundary gain... and have always tried to pull my speakers away from any layer/wall in order to gain a more spatial image. Space limitations always apply here. LIKE ALL THINGS, it is tunable... Meaning I move my speakers in and out of wall and corner proximity in order to balance the gain and spatial qualities on the image, all in conjunction with 'clocking' of the speakers. it's not rocket science. what I have also found that as I move up in horn sizing, the less important this 'tuning' is and that means I can concentrate more on the boundary layer gain aspects instead of trying to balance the two aspects. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Painful Reality said: I would not saw flawless. I was using the Forte in a way these were not really designed to be used. The main issue was the proximity to the side walls. Despite this the was an awesome setup that did put a huge smile on my face for two years. I recently had a change over and got a Pass Labs INT60 and a pair of Sonus Faber Electa Amator III. And this setup is mindblowing. The smaller size of the Sonus Faber integrates better in the room. This is my holographic setup for studio albums while my Cornwall IV are for my live, kick in the guts setup. Those are some monstrous speaker cables! Could you tell us a little bit about them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 When it comes to walls, can we standardize what we call them? That way, at least one point of confusion will be eliminated or at least greatly reduced. What I suggest is this: the wall behind the Front speakers is the front wall. The wall behind the Rear/Back speakers is the rear/back wall. Can we agree on this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Islander said: When it comes to walls, can we standardize what we call them? That way, at least one point of confusion will be eliminated or at least greatly reduced. What I suggest is this: the wall behind the Front speakers is the front wall. The wall behind the Rear/Back speakers is the rear/back wall. Can we agree on this? NO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, babadono said: NO Okay, that’s the vote from the ornery guy. Who’s next? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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babadono Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 A course the front wall is the wall behind the L and R mains or LCR. By definition. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Morbius Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, babadono said: A course the front wall is the wall behind the L and R mains or LCR. By definition. That’s how I always figured it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 That’s good. Thanks. The thing is, I keep seeing references to the “back” wall, which seems to be the wall in back of (an odd way of saying “behind”) the front speakers. Sometimes it really makes you wonder where the speakers are, or what kind of bizarre room they’re in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Put'em in the corner of the oval office 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 When I had Forte IIIs I tried them well into the room but didn’t care for that. But at the time I didn’t have subs. I have my LS IIs a little more than two feet from the front wall and I get decent SS depth. Stereo subs sit behind the speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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