Advice for the newly addicted.

[82 Cornwalls]

On 9/8/2022 at 6:23 AM, Shakeydeal said:

OP, since you are newbie you should take everything @ODS123 says with a proverbial grain of salt. No, make that a pound of it.

 

Listen for yourself and you'll likely hear two things:

 

1) amps can sound dramatically different from each other

 

2) vinyl played back with a well thought out front end can sound glorious

 

Like I said, listen and let your own hearing tell you what you need to know. You don't need me or some self proclaimed expert on this forum to validate what you can discern for yourself. 

 

 

 

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[Toz]

ODS, I respect your opinion, it's clear that for you this subject is settled science. But for others, it's helpful to read up a bit about the Richard Clark Challenge before forming an opinion. First off, the guy is a car audio dealer and not specifically a high end audio person. Second, the test parameters are such that it has little bearing on how you would use two different amps in your own set up. How an amplifier drives a reactive load, one where the impedance curve moves around a lot, will vary from one amp to the next. The frequency  response of the amp/speaker combination will be different with different amps. He adjusts for this variation!  You don't adjust for this at home, which is why many of us can easily hear differences when we try different amplifiers with our Klipsch gear. It's pretty simple, he's adding EQ to compensate impedance curve induced frequency response nonlinearities. Yeah, that's gonna make it darn hard to tell a difference 24 out of 24 times to win the prize.

[Deang]

Nm. Not wasting my time on this. 

[KT88]

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[ODS123]

On 9/11/2022 at 12:55 AM, Toz said:

First off, the guy is a car audio dealer and not specifically a high end audio person. Second, the test parameters are such that it has little bearing on how you would use two different amps in your own set up. How an amplifier drives a reactive load, one where the impedance curve moves around a lot, will vary from one amp to the next. The frequency  response of the amp/speaker combination will be different with different amps. He adjusts for this variation!

 

The fact that he's a car audio dealer doesn't really enter into it.  If so, why?

 

..He allowed people to bring their own speakers!  

 

He adjusted only for amps that did not have linear F/R.  ..Usually tube amps.  

 

And he didn't expect 20/20 correct.  Rather he expected a % of correct ID's that ruled out chance.