KT88 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I love the advantages each of analogue and digital. They are different. I think cable lifters are stupid nonsense for stupid people with too much money. Besides, it implies that you have cables for money that other people buy good stereo equipment with. You should try 5 dollar cable per metre to see if the lifting has an effect. BTW obviously there are good cheap cables: Maybe the next idiot will soon come along and say that the spacers don't give enough height. It would be much better if we lowered ropes from the ceiling and the cables had to be attached to them to be placed at a height of one metre. Question, what is the next idea for audiophiles? Another example. I have 1993 Tannoy Canterbury without the earth wire for the chassis. The later models have this extra earth lead which must never be connected to minus output of the amp. It must be connected to the ground of the socket or to the radiators etc. The idea is that in this way RF is diverted which otherwise feeds the chassis like an antenna into the speaker cable and flows back to the amp. Ok I installed it for my former Tannoy speaker after the fact out of curiosity. Yes, it sounds different, maybe even clearer in the mids. But there are so many gimmicks, here the RF irradiation, there the distance of cables from the floor and whatever else there is. And on the other hand, there is habit. I have made the experience that I got used to every sound as long as there were no annoying or ear-aching parts. I would advise friends of pure digital sources to do without speaker cables altogether if the thread theme is worrying you. Put a wifi-enabled amp directly to your Heritage speakers and the discussion about floor spacers is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 BTW out of curiosity I prised open all our walls and tore out the light cables. The dust and debris was worth it. You wouldn't believe how much more harmonious and natural our lamps shine after I run them over the walls with spacers. My wife was overwhelmed by the sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 You guys seem to be stuck on the audio aspects of this idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 7 hours ago, MicroMara said: Please explain ..how a complete shielded loudspeaker / rca cable can be influenced by electro magnetic fields in your listening room I think you didn't understand the concept... it is in fact the Electromagnetic field that actually conducts in the circuit and not current flowing down a line. A circuit isn't like a hose with liquid flowing thru it... I mean it is, but it's not the flow that powers the device but the electromagnetic field created by that flow of current that does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 16 hours ago, Schu said: I think you didn't understand the concept... it is in fact the Electromagnetic field that actually conducts in the circuit and not current flowing down a line. A circuit isn't like a hose with liquid flowing thru it... I mean it is, but it's not the flow that powers the device but the electromagnetic field created by that flow of current that does. of course @Schu , after45 years dealing with HiFi you can be sure that I know what you´re looking for 😉 At HiFi trade shows, you often see speaker cables that are routed across the floor with special spacers. This is somewhat reminiscent of high-voltage lines, which span countless kilometers of the landscape with the help of many tall poles. The tower-like high-voltage pylons prevent the strong electrical charges from jumping over the uninsulated cables due to the large distance to the ground. In contrast, only a low voltage is applied to the usual speaker cables in the hi-fi sector, since these cables are sufficiently insulated for the low voltages. To find out if this plays a role in your listening room, do a simple experiment with books. Place the books under the speaker cables so that a floor distance of at least 2 " is achieved. Then listen if there is a difference. I´m sure there isn´t any . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, MicroMara said: Then listen if there is a difference. I´m sure there isn´t any . If you BELIEVE you will hear a difference, then you will. Psychoacoustics is not imaginary. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 22 hours ago, jjptkd said: "The real truth:" Not this guy again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 A list needs to be made of the Top 100 (we will limit it to 100, although the list could be much longer) Audiophile System Enhancements that cannot be measured. Then we can discuss reality vs urban legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 There is already a thread like that somewhere. I would put this one into a separate category. "Audio and Olympic Event". Wouldn't cable lifting be cool? I just can't believe anyone cares about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MicroMara said: This is somewhat reminiscent of high-voltage lines, which span countless kilometers of the landscape with the help of many tall poles. The tower-like high-voltage pylons prevent the strong electrical charges from jumping over the uninsulated cables due to the large distance to the ground. lol. It's speaker wire. Also, many power cables are direct buried. Maybe these "cables" should be hanging from the ceiling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, deang said: Also, many power cables are direct buried. And therefore closer to ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Stahp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MicroMara said: of course @Schu , after45 years dealing with HiFi you can be sure that I know what you´re looking for 😉 At HiFi trade shows, you often see speaker cables that are routed across the floor with special spacers. This is somewhat reminiscent of high-voltage lines, which span countless kilometers of the landscape with the help of many tall poles. The tower-like high-voltage pylons prevent the strong electrical charges from jumping over the uninsulated cables due to the large distance to the ground. In contrast, only a low voltage is applied to the usual speaker cables in the hi-fi sector, since these cables are sufficiently insulated for the low voltages. To find out if this plays a role in your listening room, do a simple experiment with books. Place the books under the speaker cables so that a floor distance of at least 2 " is achieved. Then listen if there is a difference. I´m sure there isn´t any . Well, it depends on whether the books have exciting content. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Someone lifts your cables, dial 911... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Expect pre dawn raid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, deang said: There is already a thread like that somewhere. I would put this one into a separate category. "Audio and Olympic Event". Wouldn't cable lifting be cool? I just can't believe anyone cares about this one. I can't either. I think Schu did it because he was bored... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious_George Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, deang said: Stahp. When you change your name you confuse me. This forum is confusing enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Yeah, I can’t decide what to do about that. Publicly, outside of this place, most know me by my real name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWOReilly Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, billybob said: Someone lifts your cables, dial 911... Copper thieves take it all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, deang said: most know me by my real name. which is.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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