babadono Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Pleaze a picture of the often heard of 403 but never seen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 18 hours ago, Schu said: how does this guy get hold of stuff like that... his store is a miss match of junk yea but for $3k you too could have pink and green toilets 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 There cant be too many k-403's out there , maybe 2-3 pairs 1 pair for the prototypes, + the wooden horns which were made in Italy + the molds for the k-403 , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, babadono said: Pleaze a picture of the often heard of 403 but never seen! https://www.itishifi.com/archives//2014/01/the-403-horn-by-pwk-and-roy-delgado.html 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, MMurg said: https://www.itishifi.com/archives//2014/01/the-403-horn-by-pwk-and-roy-delgado.html Those are the ones. Here are some pics. Tractrix on tractrix... Right out of the mail 8-) 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Though a slightly different design, the K403 always reminded me of the EV HP 640. Knowing how good the EV HP 640 is, I could only imagine how much better the K403 is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: I could only imagine how much better the K403 is. Wish I would have known about these even though they are "unobtainable." Would have been a nice replacement for K-510's on my KPT-904's. Replaced the K-510's with a JBL HF section ( JBL 2384 horns w/2451 drivers) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 If its better than the K402 why doesn't Klipsch make/sell? Sum ting wong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 BTW $125K? that there is funny--I don't care who you are.🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, babadono said: If its better than the K402 why doesn't Klipsch make/sell? Sum ting wong. From everything I've read on the Forum, the 402 is the better horn, which is why so few 403s were made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Islander said: From everything I've read on the Forum, the 402 is the better horn, which is why so few 403s were made. I wouldn't say better as it is hard to beat the k402. Think of the K403 as a k402 with collapsing verticals. The reason I love the horn is it sounds great and has Roy and PWK's hand in the design. Pretty cool. When you hear the new Jubilee it is undoubtedly the state of the art in sound. I've never heard anything better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 hours ago, seti said: I wouldn't say better as it is hard to beat the k402. Think of the K403 as a k402 with collapsing verticals. The reason I love the horn is it sounds great and has Roy and PWK's hand in the design. Pretty cool. When you hear the new Jubilee it is undoubtedly the state of the art in sound. I've never heard anything better. Is that what you meant, or were you referring to the 403 in the first sentence? Or did you think I was saying that the 403 was the better horn, because that’s not what I said. I believe that the 402 is the better horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 11, 2022 17 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said: But since the speakers were commissioned by Mrs. Klipsch and built by someone that had worked in the Hope factory, from Paul's Personal Drawings, I guess that the new seller's advertising ploy is mostly true, while, perhaps being vague via incomplete information worse than mine. Incidentally, that guy also has 2 pairs of Khorns for sale at a shade less than $6,000, so Who knows? That's not accurate. Roy showed Paul the curves of the bass bins (he had to get the frequency up remember?). PWK said, "show me the bass bin." He showed PWK the bass bin, PWK said "how soon can we go into production." Roy drafted them. They wrote an AES article about them together. Roy knows the whole story, in every detail about the two pairs, the crossovers, etc. That may be what Klem told W.C., but not too sure Klem really knows anything about them. Travis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Travis In Austin said: That's not accurate. Roy showed Paul the curves of the bass bins (he had to get the frequency up remember?). PWK said, "show me the bass bin." He showed PWK the bass bin, PWK said "how soon can we go into production." Roy drafted them. They wrote an AES article about them together. Roy knows the whole story, in every detail about the two pairs, the crossovers, etc. That may be what Klem told W.C., but not too sure Klem really knows anything about them. Travis Thanks for contributing to the accuracy of the story I got sucked into with limited, multi-party, misinformation. All I did was to share my Experience as a "non-insider" who spent a few days, 10 years ago, with a Klipsch DEALER at the time, asking for my help on a special project of his making. I am not Rigma or MikeBSA, but I was part of the same privileged group as you, by invitation, in 2007. It was easy to hear how great the U-Jubes were, but especially the K-402 horns on top of the MWM, which caused me to part with my beloved Khorns and Center LaScala 15 years ago. I still enjoy the journey. All of my posts here have been in the spirit of keeping it real and factual as much as possible. I'm one of those who is not afraid of the truth, wherever it comes from. I don't mind being corrected with facts from others here, and I'm also not afraid of calling out others' Bullshit when appropriate, when my information refutes the worthless opinions so prevalent on the internet in general, with no data or experience to back it up. So basically, I find the asking price of the Goldens to be outrageous, with like kind reaction here. On the other hand you gotta admire the guy's intestinal fortitude in asking that price for a legendary product WITHOUT the benefit of the inside knowledge, and superior memory recall, so many here possess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 18 hours ago, The Dude said: Though a slightly different design, the K403 always reminded me of the EV HP 640. Knowing how good the EV HP 640 is, I could only imagine how much better the K403 is. Got 3 of these babies in storage! It was the best of the EV horns (had them all), which were also like by DJK, our deceased pal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said: Got 3 of these babies in storage! It was the best of the EV horns (had them all), which were also like by DJK, our deceased pal. I've had 2 sets twice but needing the storage space and money after acquiring K402s, had to sell them. DJK os the reason I tried them, I preferred them over the big 9040s. As Seti mentioned the 402 has been hard to beat, but for the price horns like 640 and 403 would be hard to beat unless you can get your hands on 402s and have space, then there is no question to ask, as its always the 402. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: unless you can get your hands on 402s and have space, then there is no question to ask, as its always the 402. I'm on my 3rd pair of used ones. I never should have sold the second pair! LOL! They help to fuel my belief and propagation of the expression "The bigger the horn, the better the horn" when you add up all the variables that yield superior sound propagation. Yet few people are willing to pay the price for their realization! Whether it's dollars, space required, or aesthetic sacrifices. They would rather put up with low volume, high distortion, small, direct radiators that Push air out rather than squeeze it out with higher sensitivity and accuracy of transient response that sound more like live instrument, especially in the bass department, which dictates big and expensive being the best for that quality level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seti Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Islander said: Is that what you meant, or were you referring to the 403 in the first sentence? Or did you think I was saying that the 403 was the better horn, because that’s not what I said. I believe that the 402 is the better horn. There are different horns with slightly different goals. The k403 needs a little less eq but with the jubilee having a dsp that is a moot point. I like em both. K402 is now on Klipsch state of the art Jubilee is all that needs to be said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo72 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 @seti Iain, do you have more info about your mini punches? I gleaned your website but did not see anything. I like the smooth curve and clean look of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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