Speed Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I found his 'color' on the subject slightly underwhelming. He was probably struggling for words to adequately paint that vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Agree, only made it half way through, even at double speed. I think I lost interest when he said they sounded so good he couldn't find the words. And he's usually such a gusher.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 That room looks extremely "hard" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Steve Guttenburg loved the Heritage Jubilee + Steve Guttenburg could have a pair of Jubilee for a long term review anytime he wants . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Wow, three negative comments on his review right away. You guys are impossible to please. He was gushing over these for the entire video and had nothing negative to say. What else did you expect him to do? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Having experienced the Heritage Jubilee in Hope at the “Last Jubfest” I fully understand his reactions and the realism of their musical reproduction was something I’m still wrapping my mind around..!!! 😄 miketn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I would love to experience what he did with Zeppelin II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 19 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: Wow, three negative comments on his review right away. You guys are impossible to please. He was gushing over these for the entire video and had nothing negative to say. What else did you expect him to do? Being as I am trying to currently treat the room where my UG Jubes are located, I just meant that room looks reverberant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, babadono said: Being as I am trying to currently treat the room where my UG Jubes are located, I just meant that room looks reverberant. Oh don't try to backtrack. Can't win. 😉 You say: 'Honey, you look really nice tonight' Her response: 'What do you mean, I look fat the rest of the time..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gregory Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I think Steve did a great review on the Jubilee’s. He said he loves the Jubilee’s and explained how he came to that conclusion. I’m personally not fond of audio reviewers that over complicate their impressions of audio equipment. Just my opinion …. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I think a reviewer like Steve has to weigh things up a bit. He is not as offensive as, for example, Amir from ASR. So Steve, for all the subjective elegance of his words, has to rely on the hi-fi industry to provide him with products for reviews. Amir has to borrow products from consumers for his reviews (I don't always agree with him because he sometimes has such a narrow view, but he's a feisty guy and livens up the scene). Tests on $3K power cables are just hilarious and they're probably true for the most part). Now Steve has had the CW4 for three whole years. Does he suddenly not like it any more? We don't know, but a reviewer who is constantly testing and publicly describing new products can't spend 10 years just promoting the same speaker (publicly) by always visibly conforming to his personal preference. Back to the Heritage Jubilee. I found his description very gushy but to be honest I also found it lacking in nuance. I don't think the critics here in the forum liked that. He is allowed to say what he particularly likes about a product and what not so much. As it was, it was very positive on the one hand, but he didn't share his concrete listening impressions with us as much as he sometimes does. What did I take away? That a Led Zeppelin recording sounds better than usual, that you can hear real church reverb well. He could also have talked about the power of the sound, about the fine differentiations that are there at the same time, about the wide spectrum of music that you can hear well, or about the deep clean bass. BTW I only know my UJ but therefore I can imagine what Steve could have said more about the HJ. I think Steve was very impressed. He needs to let the experience sink in. And then maybe we'll get a second review. One last thing, in the youtube comments someone asked directly what Steve liked better, Klipsch Jubilee, KEF Meta reference or open baffle by patial audio. Steve very rarely answers in the comments, but here his answer was immediate: Jubilee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, KT88 said: I think a reviewer like Steve has to weigh things up a bit. He is not as offensive as, for example, Amir from ASR. So Steve, for all the subjective elegance of his words, has to rely on the hi-fi industry to provide him with products for reviews. Amir has to borrow products from consumers for his reviews (I don't always agree with him because he sometimes has such a narrow view, but he's a feisty guy and livens up the scene). Tests on $3K power cables are just hilarious and they're probably true for the most part). Now Steve has had the CW4 for three whole years. Does he suddenly not like it any more? We don't know, but a reviewer who is constantly testing and publicly describing new products can't spend 10 years just promoting the same speaker (publicly) by always visibly conforming to his personal preference. Back to the Heritage Jubilee. I found his description very gushy but to be honest I also found it lacking in nuance. I don't think the critics here in the forum liked that. He is allowed to say what he particularly likes about a product and what not so much. As it was, it was very positive on the one hand, but he didn't share his concrete listening impressions with us as much as he sometimes does. What did I take away? That a Led Zeppelin recording sounds better than usual, that you can hear real church reverb well. He could also have talked about the power of the sound, about the fine differentiations that are there at the same time, about the wide spectrum of music that you can hear well, or about the deep clean bass. BTW I only know my UJ but therefore I can imagine what Steve could have said more about the HJ. I think Steve was very impressed. He needs to let the experience sink in. And then maybe we'll get a second review. One last thing, in the youtube comments someone asked directly what Steve liked better, Klipsch Jubilee, KEF Meta reference or open baffle by patial audio. Steve very rarely answers in the comments, but here his answer was immediate: Jubilee. I have seen his very favorable reviews for the Cornwall which he owns, Forte, Jubilee and a new small bookshelf which he loved, I think a RP600 or something like that. I don't really follow reviews but he must have reviewed others like the K Horn and Heresy. He is a big fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadrokot Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Greetings to all. I have a few questions regarding the specifications of these wonderful speaker systems. Frequency range from 18Hz to 20kHz at what level? How does a 5" compression driver reproduce 20kHz, pushing a fairly large volume of air in such a horn? The horn, according to theory, is 3.5 octaves wider in the range of reproducible frequencies. And here we have almost 6 octaves, from 340 to 20,000Hz. My knowledge is minimal, especially with Klipsch engineers and I can articulate negatively. + English through Google Translate, but I would like to hear the answers to my strange questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry4841 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 13 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: Oh don't try to backtrack. Can't win. 😉 You say: 'Honey, you look really nice tonight' Her response: 'What do you mean, I look fat the rest of the time..." Once told a woman at work one morning that she was looking nice today. Got almost the same back, "what I do not look good all the time." Learned quickly to not talk to females at work any more than necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry4841 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I learned decades ago that big horn speakers are impressive on the showroom floor. To adequately review any speaker would take more time than one day in a showroom listening at a dealer though. Not to diminish what I am sure is a very impressive sounding speaker but just being honest. One thing for sure, impressive looking speakers. Just seeing them in person would be an experience to remember for any audiophile. Like most cannot afford them or have a room big enough to listen to them in but still I am impressed with what Klipsch has done with a new Heritage speaker. Among the elite speaker companies Klipsch has set a high bar to meet with the introduction of the Jubilee speaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I think this picture puts its size in perspective. The K Horn looks small next to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, quadrokot said: Greetings to all. I have a few questions regarding the specifications of these wonderful speaker systems. Frequency range from 18Hz to 20kHz at what level? How does a 5" compression driver reproduce 20kHz, pushing a fairly large volume of air in such a horn? The horn, according to theory, is 3.5 octaves wider in the range of reproducible frequencies. And here we have almost 6 octaves, from 340 to 20,000Hz. My knowledge is minimal, especially with Klipsch engineers and I can articulate negatively. + English through Google Translate, but I would like to hear the answers to my strange questions. The lead engineer at Klipsch worked on this very diligently. This product was a long time in development. And yes the Celestion mid/hi frequency driver is nothing short of amazing. I think they call it Axi Periodic. I'm sure there is a lot of processing going on in the DSP box that must be used with these as well. Wish I had an extra $35k laying around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 hours ago, quadrokot said: Greetings to all. I have a few questions regarding the specifications of these wonderful speaker systems. Frequency range from 18Hz to 20kHz at what level? How does a 5" compression driver reproduce 20kHz, pushing a fairly large volume of air in such a horn? The horn, according to theory, is 3.5 octaves wider in the range of reproducible frequencies. And here we have almost 6 octaves, from 340 to 20,000Hz. My knowledge is minimal, especially with Klipsch engineers and I can articulate negatively. + English through Google Translate, but I would like to hear the answers to my strange questions. - Frequency range from 18Hz to 20kHz at what level? From the spec sheet found at the bottom of the product page (https://www.klipsch.com/products/jubilee-floorstanding-speaker) SPECIFICATIONS FREQUENCY RESPONSE (+/- 3 dB) 18Hz – 20kHz SENSITIVITY1 HF normalized to LF - 105dB/1m POWER HANDLING (CONT/PEAK) LF - 300W / 1200W HF - 100W / 400W MAXIMUM SPL 125 dB/1m (Using DSP) NOMINAL IMPEDANCE LF - 8 ohms, minimum 3.8 ohms HF - 16 ohms, miminum 8 ohms CROSSOVER FREQUENCY 340 Hz HIGH FREQUENCY DRIVER K-693 5” Titanium Diaphragm Compression Driver LOW FREQUENCY DRIVER K-281 12” Fiber-Composite cone woofer ENCLOSURE MATERIAL MDF/Plywood INPUTS 5 way binding post HEIGHT 69” (175.26 cm) WIDTH 50” (127 cm) DEPTH 30” (76.2 cm) FINISH Black Ash, American Walnut - How does a 5" compression driver reproduce 20kHz, pushing a fairly large volume of air in such a horn? The Celestion Axi2050 is not your usual compression driver. The diaphragm is not a simple dome. It's a low mass, flat, annular, embossed ring clamped at the inner and outer edge and driven by a voice coil in the middle of the ring. (https://celestion.com/product/axi2050/) - The horn, according to theory, is 3.5 octaves wider in the range of reproducible frequencies. And here we have almost 6 octaves, from 340 to 20,000Hz. The K-402 horn can control very low, down to about 200 Hz. That, combined with a wide dispersion phase plug (aka throat lens) gives it very wide bandwidth performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KT88 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Its like two in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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