Brand Damage

[Stephen Buck]

Danny Richie at GR Research posted 

and I think he’s been doing this for years but discovered he like PS Audio actively delete comments, so there’s no option to inform anyone there about klipsch or their ideas.  But I wonder what sort of legal protections are available for mass media style brand damage attempts versus what any old school shade tree mechanic might say to get some work.  The comments are insidious, and I know from being a long time customer Klipsch plays well in the sandbox with the industry. Maybe he’s too small a gnat to attend to, but usually broadcast media invokes other rules about trash talk.  It’s one thing to offer aftermarket “performance” like any auto parts store.  It seems entirely different to go on and on on mass media about OEM parts and the brand in general. 
 

Thoughts anyone?

[henry4841]

I just consider him a con man and pay no attention to what he says. Who exactly is the guy and where did he get his engineering degree? Some fall for his BS is the sad part. 

[Racer X]

Charlatan first order.

 

But entertaining if you watch from that perspective.

[Bubo]

I don't know if he is wrong, or right

He does make a fact based argument

so you can take measurements

and argue the facts with him

 

The other question is what were the design goals for the factory product

and did it meet them.

And are Dan's design goals something different.

Such as designed for rooms between these dimensions

with the listeners sitting in this arc.....

[wuzzzer]

@Stephen Buck I really wonder why no one bothers to read the sticky at the top of this forum section.  🤷🏻‍♂️

[OO1]

 some  guys just like to complain  ,  one more  to add to the list of Aftermarkets bozos

[JohnJ]

Saw him complain about the Forte III's sound when I had mine right when they came out.

 

Thing is with all his points I could see he ignored basic speaker placement knowledge and specific F3 info from their manual !!

 

That ignorance can be rampant sometimes, these days it is all inclusive. When you cut something off, YOU AREN'T the other thing that comes without it!

When you modify your Klipsch they aren't warrantied anymore `cause they aren't Klipsch anymore!

 

He's a snake-in-the-grass!

[soundbound]

He says bad things about Klipsch and their products in his videos. Isn’t he slandering Klipsch in that video and in his other Klipsch videos too? Is what he’s stating about Klipsch in his public videos illegal in any ways?

[JohnJ]

If he is doing anything in that Forte III video I saw years ago he showed them placed badly and said their response wasn't good. DUH a big Homer Simpson DUH. Guess he thinks we're dummies for liking the clarity of horn loaded speakers and thinks he could reel us in

[Peter P.]

The engineers at Klipsch are PAID to ENGINEER speakers. They likely have degrees in a related field. And they most certainly have the test equipment available to measure their designs. We have to assume these engineers may have to make compromises due to cost constraints or material limitations. That's what engineers do.

 

But they are clearly educated, and do this for a living.

 

Whereas Danny Richie is a YouTuber.

 

 

[Tom05]

Unwanted opinions about people and products aren’t normally considered to be slander . But as a loyal Klipsch enthusiast , I think he should be arrested immediately .🤓

[The History Kid]

1 hour ago, soundbound said:

He says bad things about Klipsch and their products in his videos. Isn’t he slandering Klipsch in that video and in his other Klipsch videos too? Is what he’s stating about Klipsch in his public videos illegal in any ways?

Saying that Toyota Priuses are garbage and expensive lunchboxes does not mean that Toyota can sue me for slander, no.

[OO1]

6 hours ago, soundbound said:

Is what he’s stating   illegal 

illegal , no ,   he  complains about how klipsch speakers are built , problem is klipsch sell out     , and no one really  cares about  GR Research  

[henry4841]

11 hours ago, Peter P. said:

The engineers at Klipsch are PAID to ENGINEER speakers. They likely have degrees in a related field. And they most certainly have the test equipment available to measure their designs. We have to assume these engineers may have to make compromises due to cost constraints or material limitations. That's what engineers do.

 

But they are clearly educated, and do this for a living.

 

Whereas Danny Richie is a YouTuber.

 

 

Well said. The problem with testing speakers is most do not have the facilities to properly test them. An anechoic chamber is needed which few have access to. My measurements in my room will in no way resemble the results seen in a proper chamber with lab test equipment. GR guy is just a hack trying to make a buck selling witch oil. 

[moray james]

a Klippel measurement system is a most remarkable tool you only need $100 K to buy one so they are not for your average Joe. Most speaker companies don't want to spend that much but they do provide both the designer and the end user with valuable information.

[OO1]

18 hours ago, Tom05 said:

But as a loyal Klipsch enthusiast , I think he should be arrested immediately .🤓

 Nah , we should invite him for a pow pow   on the forum  to  discuss his genius creations    ,  mi klipsch casa su casa .    Mr  Youtube Dannie Richie , come on down 

 

[soundbound]

7 minutes ago, OO1 said:

 Nah , we should invite him for a pow pow   on the forum  to  discuss his genius creations    ,  mi klipsch casa su casa .    Mr  Youtube Dannie Richie , come on down 

 

 

Yes, but I doubt he’d do that.

 

I’d like him to come to a Klipsch gathering, so we can watch Mr. Roy Delgado call him a bonehead to his face and honor him with a BS button.

[henry4841]

Let's just use a common word about the video thrown around a lot these days and leave it at that.

 

Misinformation. 

[MicroMara]

I don't know at all why you´re complain. GR damages pretty much all brands in the world, there is hardly a brand that they have nothing to complain about and offer their DIY kits for.  All is marketing to generate new sales. Can´t see this vids anymore .

[Stephen Buck]

On 4/7/2023 at 11:44 AM, wuzzzer said:

@Stephen Buck I really wonder why no one bothers to read the sticky at the top of this forum section.  🤷🏻‍♂️

The sections allowed to post to are restricted for newcomers, that’s the reason.  But it’s technical in nature because someone is saying there’s a technical problem.