Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 16, 2024 Moderators Share Posted November 16, 2024 Posting photos of the prototype and listening to them in a little bit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob1 Posted November 17, 2024 Author Share Posted November 17, 2024 4 hours ago, Travis In Austin said: Posting photos of the prototype and listening to them in a little bit. That'll work...☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob1 Posted November 21, 2024 Author Share Posted November 21, 2024 Let it be so Travis... thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbiz Posted November 21, 2024 Share Posted November 21, 2024 Oh well... I thought I could hear them in person, but IQ Home Entertainment, one of the two locations identified on the Klipsch site, can only order them. They don't have them on the showroom floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontknow Posted December 3, 2024 Share Posted December 3, 2024 Had a chance to give the Ojas a listen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted December 3, 2024 Share Posted December 3, 2024 If I were to buy a pair of Heresy size 2-way speakers, I would want to AB the Ojas against Justin Weber's offering: the Klamath. It's easy to see which of the two looks better. I'd be willing to bet a steak dinner which will sound better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Evans Posted December 3, 2024 Share Posted December 3, 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Woofers and Tweeters Posted December 3, 2024 Share Posted December 3, 2024 Just now, Idontknow said: How does this Justin Weber justify the high prices? You would have to ask Justin. If I were to guess, I'd say it like anything else: supply and demand. 2 minutes ago, Idontknow said: This just looks like nice cabinetry and the components just look like Crites. To me, they look similar to a Dave Harris horn design. 15 minutes ago, Idontknow said: Crites makes a solid product at a very reasonable price including crossovers. I agree and am not trying to bring that into this part of what I said. 17 minutes ago, Idontknow said: I don't know, but the information provided on the site is pretty vague. Again, you'll have to ask A&S. This video will answer some questions. Justin, working with Dave Harris, Al with ALK and many other people on this forum, has worked well for him. I only brought JW's speakers into this because they are 2-way, they are offered at a similar price, and our ears are liars: Comparable (X) has to be ABed to hear which sounds better. Also, I know how much better that shape horn is than what has been standard: Rectangular, ~ straight from the throat to the mouth, and with corners. The evolution of the Klipsch horn has changed shape and added mumps for better sound. Do we have a bet or not? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 2 hours ago, gigantic said: it's a Faital Elliptical Thanks. I saw that after making my post and was headed to work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 12 hours ago, Idontknow said: I'm not trying to be hard, but his video is pretty vague for sharing his own product. I just feel dubious when I see someone selling wood cabinets with what appear to be generic horns and a very high ticket price. It just doesn't add up. 14 hours ago, Idontknow said: Maybe the drivers are different, I don't know, but the information provided on the site is pretty vague. I can't agree. Justin's page about the Klamath offers more info than Ojas' and Klipsch's sites combined. 12 hours ago, Idontknow said: I understand some need to make some money but Crites keeps the prices real and fair by comparison. I said before I am not trying to bring that into the conversation. I brought up Justin Weber's Klamath because it was similar in size and price. I am willing to bet on the outcome of a shootout between those two. (If I were to pit Weber vs Ojas vs Crites offerings, I know what pair I would buy... even before listening to them) 12 hours ago, Idontknow said: Some of the prices people come up with are just so absurd. Even with inflation it still makes no sense to me. Let the price bother you if you want to. Although I agree with what you're saying, I don't care how much they charge any more than I care how much someone is willing to pay for them. Looking at it from other's pov, most of us here have what most others would call absurd. They view the Heresy as too large and cost too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 17 hours ago, Idontknow said: I'm not trying to be hard, but his video is pretty vague for sharing his own product. I just feel dubious when I see someone selling wood cabinets with what appear to be generic horns and a very high ticket price. It just doesn't add up. I remember seeing his build threads here over the years he does an amazing job with cabinet construction / bracing etc IIRC he uses the Fatail Pro drivers in these for the horns- I'm sure they sound fantastic. That being said I do believe they are more or less premade DIY speakers with mostly off the shelf parts and I agree price seems really high to me. If you did through the forum pages you could probably find this build on here and an exact parts list. Here's a break down of the 3-way version: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 2 hours ago, jjptkd said: I remember seeing his build threads here over the years he does an amazing job with cabinet construction / bracing etc IIRC he uses the Fatail Pro drivers in these for the horns- That's what I recall too and freely shared information to help others with this addiction hobby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 I didn't mean to hijack this thread, take away from Ojas, or be a spokesperson for other brands. Knowing how our hearing forgets, I would love to hear the aforementioned in an earlier post ABed and, afterward, enjoy a steak dinner and conversation, even if I am the one buying. I like how the Ojas motorboard overlaps / covers the ends of the rest of the cabinet. The cabinet's fit and finish look great and is probably only surpassed by the sound quality. I stated that I didn't care about the price, but I should have said I am not concerned about the prices. I do 'care' and hope they fetch all the money the market allows. I hope whatever Klipsch and Ojas do is a success. A Prime Porterhouse, cooked medium sure would taste good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob1 Posted December 4, 2024 Author Share Posted December 4, 2024 Yes thinking 💭 🤔 page 8 upcoming... May get a pair for free... we'll see. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1291 Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, billybob1 said: Yes thinking 💭 🤔 page 8 upcoming... May get a pair for free... we'll see. Go back to bed! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob1 Posted December 4, 2024 Author Share Posted December 4, 2024 Just now, Dave1291 said: Go back to bed! Been up earlier, 2cup down. May be getting adrenaline down . Good idea 💡 Dave... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1291 Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, billybob1 said: Good idea 💡 Good luck w/that. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Warren Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 On 12/3/2024 at 11:35 AM, Idontknow said: Some of the prices people come up with are just so absurd. Even with inflation it still makes no sense to me. It's just a plywood box. The business case to manufacture loudspeaker systems is non-existent in most metro regions in the USA. If you make a few models, you'll be asking many $k/pr regardless of COGS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontknow Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 On 12/15/2024 at 8:43 AM, John Warren said: It's just a plywood box. The business case to manufacture loudspeaker systems is non-existent in most metro regions in the USA. If you make a few models, you'll be asking many $k/pr regardless of COGS. C'mon, let's get real here! $8500?! Yes, there's work that goes into it, like many companies, but once you have a well oiled machine going, it's nothing. All the CNC machinery does all the cutting and they just assemble them. They get these parts at cost and I myself have built hundreds of cabinets for my own industry and I did it all by hand and I worked my A.... off. It's like what many house painters are charging. Okay it's 50k to paint your house. These people pull these ridiculous prices out of their A....! I'm not against profits and running a business, but this is typical price gouging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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