DLStryker Posted January 20 Posted January 20 46 minutes ago, babadono said: I use 4 LA90Ds on the mids and tweets and 2 B200s on the bass bins of my 3 way UG Jubes. Silence is golden. Using a 3 way electronic crossover I assume. Which model? Quote
DLStryker Posted January 20 Posted January 20 I have two Crown DSi 1000's. Unfortunately, have never used them. One of the options they have: Onboard digital signal processing includes crossovers, EQ filters, delay, and output limiting. Are these good amps? I would like to use one as a sub amp. I don't know how to use the DSP though. Not very intuitive when I stark clicking around on the three separate option button on the front. Anyone have experience setting up the DSP in these amps? Quote
Schu Posted January 20 Author Posted January 20 I think it would be nearly impossible to operate effectively without a GUi of some kind. While the front panel is good for input on a macro level while you input global settings, I would find it infuriating to try and set slopes, shelfs, delays and any number any other settings that need some visualization to implement in a timely manner, let alone operate in real time... and I am pretty decent at it. Quote
babadono Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 1/19/2025 at 5:21 PM, DLStryker said: Using a 3 way electronic crossover I assume. Which model? Currently using a Paulkitson DSP0408RTS with settings transposed from Xilica XP4080. The Paulkitson has 16 PEQs per output so in future I can setup minimum phase crossover per ChrisA. Also it has FIR filters. Much newer/later gen DSP, A to D, D to A and opamps than Xilica. 1 Quote
Kalifornian Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 1/16/2025 at 11:02 AM, Schu said: so it's an issue of economics? Isnt it always? Quote
the real Duke Spinner Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 1/17/2025 at 1:08 PM, Marvel said: Dennis thought they were terrible amps over 30 years ago. They were made for Specifications not Sound I love my K2. 🙂 Quote
DLStryker Posted January 22 Posted January 22 On 1/19/2025 at 10:35 PM, Schu said: I think it would be nearly impossible to operate effectively without a GUi of some kind. While the front panel is good for input on a macro level while you input global settings, I would find it infuriating to try and set slopes, shelfs, delays and any number any other settings that need some visualization to implement in a timely manner, let alone operate in real time... and I am pretty decent at it. I have HiQnet Audio Architect downloaded. Recommended by Crown for this amp. Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of how to use the package. You have any familiarity with this package? 1 Quote
DLStryker Posted January 22 Posted January 22 On 1/19/2025 at 10:35 PM, Schu said: I think it would be nearly impossible to operate effectively without a GUi of some kind. While the front panel is good for input on a macro level while you input global settings, I would find it infuriating to try and set slopes, shelfs, delays and any number any other settings that need some visualization to implement in a timely manner, let alone operate in real time... and I am pretty decent at it. I found a Youtube video. I think I am making progress. 1 Quote
Schu Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 That looks intuitive... an you post that video? Quote
Schu Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 7 hours ago, Kalifornian said: Isnt it always? From the perspective of semantics, perhaps. Quote
DLStryker Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Sure can. See below. 1 hour ago, Schu said: That looks intuitive... an you post that video? Quote
MookieStl Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I have three Crown amps that I use primarily for outdoor use (or large space). Plenty of good clean power, love the fans to keep them running cool (unlike Eric), certainly can't hear them outside. XLi 800 powers a pair of La Scala XLi 1500 powers a pair of LSI XLS 2502 powers a pair of homemade subs with Eminence LAB15 drivers. No complaints, ever. 1 Quote
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 On 1/17/2025 at 9:05 AM, Woofers and Tweeters said: Pricey has nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with how much X costs relative to how much people value X or their dollars.Not true. This is an opinion, not a fact. A 1964 dime is 90% silver and worth a few dollars, whereas today's dime is mostly copper with nickel plating, but I get what you're trying to say. Inflation, the hidden tax. Whether, silver, paper, copper, or gold plated, a DOLLAR is a representative denomination of what it can purchase at a given point in history. Quote
SWL Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, MookieStl said: I have three Crown amps that I use primarily for outdoor use (or large space). Plenty of good clean power, love the fans to keep them running cool (unlike Eric), certainly can't hear them outside. XLi 800 powers a pair of La Scala XLi 1500 powers a pair of LSI XLS 2502 powers a pair of homemade subs with Eminence LAB15 drivers. No complaints, ever. Mookie I'm eyeballing that XLi 1500. If my K2 takes a dive for some reason, you think that 1500 could fill it's shoes? Quote
MookieStl Posted January 23 Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, SWL said: Mookie I'm eyeballing that XLi 1500. If my K2 takes a dive for some reason, you think that 1500 could fill it's shoes? What would you be driving with it? For my purposes, it has performed flawlessly, but never had to drive too hard. Loud and long maybe but easy speakers to drive (LS splits). I have never used the K2 so cant comment on the comparison, but don't think you can go wrong with the XLi1500. Some don't like fans but these are fairly quiet and I prefer to not overheat an amp (if possible). Can be used as a boat anchor if it does shoot craps. Quote
SWL Posted January 23 Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, MookieStl said: What would you be driving with it? For my purposes, it has performed flawlessly, but never had to drive too hard. Loud and long maybe but easy speakers to drive (LS splits). I have never used the K2 so cant comment on the comparison, but don't think you can go wrong with the XLi1500. Some don't like fans but these are fairly quiet and I prefer to not overheat an amp (if possible). Can be used as a boat anchor if it does shoot craps. It would be driving KLF-30'Ss so very easy to drive. Fans not an issue for the basement system it would be in. I've had 500 watt XTI's and XLS's in the past. Sound quality not the best compared to my K2 but the power was great. 1 Quote
MookieStl Posted January 23 Posted January 23 SQ has never been an issue with these amps to ME. I don't have that "golden ear" but have used other amps with less impressive results. In my experience, most that hear (if not all) my system, say it is the best they have ever heard, period. I just tell them that they need to get out more. One of my sons took it to a friends wedding reception and they were blown away. I came to help break down afterwards and the entire party could not say enough about the sound. Quote
derrickdj1 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Do the KLF 30's need anywhere near the power these amps offer? Can any of these amps drive the speaker better in a home setting needing less than 10 watts. Quote
Schu Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 1 hour ago, MookieStl said: SQ has never been an issue with these amps... I don't have that "golden ear"... the sound. That's to bad. Perhaps it is akin to a curse, but I can tell difference. I have an ideal that I strive to achieve... so perhaps it is more a preference that a standard of gold, but I do need satisfaction as opposed to 'good enough as long as it's loud and clear'. Quote
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