Crown Amplifier's

[Woofers and Tweeters]

7 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:

Not true. This is an opinion, not a fact.

Just so we know what you're arguing against, I said "Price has nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with how much X costs relative to how much people value X or their dollars" ... I don't know why you said that's not true.
Inflation is a Consumer Price Index based on select goods over a particular year. This has nothing to do with the prices of eggs going up due to bird flu, prices going down on X due to record field harvests, gas prices up due to the war support in Ukraine, or just because. The stereo equipment's high prices are due to some old geezers buying it, not because of inflation.  

 

[Woofers and Tweeters]

7 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:

Whether, silver, paper, copper, or gold plated, a DOLLAR is a representative denomination of what it can purchase at a given point in history.

You should put the shovel down. Rather than hijack schu's thread, if you want to argue about this, please start a different thread. 

[hanksjim1]

11 hours ago, derrickdj1 said:

Can any of these amps drive the speaker better in a home setting needing less than 10 watts.

The "Chief" regularly used two Crown D-75A units with a EV DX-38 crossover to test/fine tune the LaScala two way with K-510 horn...just saying.  You can buy them on eBay for $100.; maybe worth a try with little risk financially.   I have found these to be very listenable and nicely configured with mono switch, XLR connections and adjustable gain features...YMMV.

 

[The Dude]

Weighing in at 88 lbs, I purposely ran a 30 amp service to my audio closet for one of these. I'm sure there are probably modern day amps that are more efficient with less power requirements. But how cool would it be to tell people you have a dedicated 30 amp circuit for your power amp?

 

 

[The Dude]

1 hour ago, hanksjim1 said:

Crown D-75A

•Powerful AB+B class circuitry yields maximum efficiency with minimum crossover “notch” distortion.

 

I believe this why they sound so good.

 

For a more HT friendly application, the HCA line from Parasound are pretty close to sound (at least to my ears), with added 12 volt trigger.  

[ClaudeJ1]

8 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:

You should put the shovel down. Rather than hijack schu's thread, if you want to argue about this, please start a different thread. 

All threads, sooner or later, get hijacked. So put your axe down.

You did it by making two different points.

I agreed with one and not the other.

I just wanted you to segregate and amplify, which you did (pun intended).

Practice what you preach.

[MookieStl]

13 hours ago, Schu said:

That's to bad.

Perhaps it is akin to a curse, but I can tell difference. I have an ideal that I strive to achieve... so perhaps it is more a preference that a standard of gold, but I do need satisfaction as opposed to 'good enough as long as it's loud and clear'.

I have an "ideal" as well, just get there sooner than most on here. I do recognize crap when I hear it real quick. I have disappointed several enthusiasts when I fail to hear a minute difference. "you didn't hear that cricket fart in f sharp?". At first, I wished I could but then figured out I got to my goal sooner and cheaper than others. Compared to the other 95% of the population, I'm a snob. My only point was the my Crown experience has been nothing but positive. The original purpose of your thread. The "golden ear" comment was simply to qualify my statements as one old man's opinion. I do have a much nicer system in my home but as good as it is, it doesn't supply any more enjoyment than my outdoor system, which is the point. LS outdoors is kinda magical. There have been numerous threads. Everyone reaches a "good enough" point where the subtle difference is either not noticed or worth the additional expense.

[MookieStl]

14 hours ago, derrickdj1 said:

Do the KLF 30's need anywhere near the power these amps offer? Can any of these amps drive the speaker better in a home setting needing less than 10 watts.

@SWL, Derrick is correct. the 1500 might be overkill, but the XLi 800 might be what you are looking for with those speakers. Never heard them.

Not a bad option. Reasonable price at PE and can return if you don't like it. (I think you'll keep it)
Balanced inputs (plus RCA) are an added bonus as well as the SpeakOn connections in addition to the normal five way binding posts. 

It's just a hobby, have fun with it. 

[Schu]

2 hours ago, MookieStl said:

I have an "ideal" as well, just get there sooner than most on here. I do recognize crap when I hear it real quick. I have disappointed several enthusiasts when I fail to hear a minute difference. "you didn't hear that cricket fart in f sharp?". At first, I wished I could but then figured out I got to my goal sooner and cheaper than others. Compared to the other 95% of the population, I'm a snob. My only point was the my Crown experience has been nothing but positive. The original purpose of your thread. The "golden ear" comment was simply to qualify my statements as one old man's opinion. I do have a much nicer system in my home but as good as it is, it doesn't supply any more enjoyment than my outdoor system, which is the point. LS outdoors is kinda magical. There have been numerous threads. Everyone reaches a "good enough" point where the subtle difference is either not noticed or worth the additional expense.

that's a reasonable response... thank you.
I have also found, with my ear of gold, that it can also take 'time' to realize whether or not something is good... meaning, many times I have found that gear I have owned begin to wear on my brain after initially finding some level of satisfaction with it... often refereed to as 'fatigue' it can also take other forms of dissatisfaction.
One last thing you mention above, the room matters... or in your stated case, the lack of a room/outdoors.

[MookieStl]

No room treatments needed.

Not mine, but you get the point.

[82 Cornwalls]

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[SWL]

6 hours ago, MookieStl said:

@SWL, Derrick is correct. the 1500 might be overkill, but the XLi 800 might be what you are looking for with those speakers. Never heard them.

Not a bad option. Reasonable price at PE and can return if you don't like it. (I think you'll keep it)
Balanced inputs (plus RCA) are an added bonus as well as the SpeakOn connections in addition to the normal five way binding posts. 

It's just a hobby, have fun with it. 

Yeah I have several amps that power these speakers. High power, low power, moderate power, tube, solid state.....

 

They do great with all of the above. As far as high power goes, obviously they don't need 500 watts and 100 watts can really make them pound. 50 watts can make them pound. But in my experience with these speakers, a 500 watt K2 is just on another level with headroom and energy. 

 

These speakers love power and can handle it. The only time I got nervous was with a Macrotech 3600vz. It sounded great but cranked up it sounded strained. Never blew a woof or a tweet but 1200 watts at 8 ohms was total overkill. 😯

[Gnote]

I have 8 Crown K2's  , 3 Crown K1's , 3 Crown D-45's , 2 Crown CT8150's and a Crown CTS 8200 .

All have been very quiet for me (some required Deoxit on the gain knobs) and all are used on highly efficient Klipsch speakers .

The D45's I have not used yet so I cannot comment on them .

The  K2's are currently feeding MCM's with the original passive XO's for Home Theater and they go dead quiet when need be and of course NO fan noise. They sound great to me....I don't find them lacking in any way.

I don't hear much if any difference between the K2 and K1's on the MCM's but on Sub duty the K2 has more power which always helpful.

The CTS 8200 sounds good pushing outdoor Klipsch speakers

The CT8150's are pushing LSI's right now and they are super clean.

I agree with @SWL the K2's seem just right for my purpose.

 

 

[Invidiosulus]

My KP-250s sound great from across the street.

Powered by a Crown XLS-1002.

 

[the real Duke Spinner]

On 1/23/2025 at 8:25 AM, hanksjim1 said:

The "Chief" regularly used two Crown D-75A  

 

Common Studio Monitor amp

[Woofers and Tweeters]

On 1/23/2025 at 8:26 PM, Gnote said:

but on Sub duty

What sub are you using and are they / is it with your MCM1900s?

 

[Coytee]

 

 

On 1/23/2025 at 8:26 PM, Gnote said:

The  K2's are currently feeding MCM's

 

Sending hate vibes (envy) your way!!  

 

I really need to acquiesce and build a detached garage for the wife (we already have a garage, she wants a detached also.....to put 'stuff')

 

Then after giving in....  need to get another stack of some sissy speakers like that again.  (sometimes kick myself for moving the 2-double bass and 2-single bass bins out to others)

 

 

 

[Gnote]

10 hours ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:

What sub are you using and are they / is it with your MCM1900s?

 

With the MCM's  I started with a Lab12 I got from @ClaudeJ1 . While I was there I got to listen to his K402's , along with a pair of DTS 10's. Needless to say I was on a mission to aquire both. . I did add a DTS 10 with my Lab12 and the MCM Combo...they played really nice together . Fast forward and I added A Klipsch KPT-1802 HLS this Fall . The 3 different subs sound good to me and they are all being run off a bridged K2 of their own ... I have a 4th K2 waiting for my 4th sub . At this point my goal is to end up with 2 DTS10's and 2KPT1802's with the MCM system.  I do have a second KPT1802 and have been on the lookout for 2nd DTS10.

[Gnote]

58 minutes ago, Coytee said:

 

 

 

Sending hate vibes (envy) your way!!  

 

I really need to acquiesce and build a detached garage for the wife (we already have a garage, she wants a detached also.....to put 'stuff')

 

Then after giving in....  need to get another stack of some sissy speakers like that again.  (sometimes kick myself for moving the 2-double bass and 2-single bass bins out to others)

 

 

 

I haven't forgotten that YOU were the first one to answer some questions and offer some help regarding my purchase of my MCM system !... I thank you for that  ...you were also running DTS 10's

I kick myself for not buying your DTS 10 you sold or the MWM bins. The bonus of listening in your field would have made it all worthwhile but everybody decides to sell when I'm not in a position personally or financially to take advantage. Claude did the same thing .. called an offered my his system which i would have Loved but the timing was wrong.

My goal is to move South (somewhere warm) with 5-10 acres , get an outbuilding where i can have a theater with the MCM system , a game room/bar  where I can have my MCM/K402 system for music , and a third room (garage space).

[Woofers and Tweeters]

41 minutes ago, Gnote said:

With the MCM's  I started with a Lab12 I got from @ClaudeJ1 . While I was there I got to listen to his K402's , along with a pair of DTS 10's. Needless to say I was on a mission to aquire both. . I did add a DTS 10 with my Lab12 and the MCM Combo...they played really nice together . Fast forward and I added A Klipsch KPT-1802 HLS this Fall . The 3 different subs sound good to me and they are all being run off a bridged K2 of their own ... I have a 4th K2 waiting for my 4th sub . At this point my goal is to end up with 2 DTS10's and 2KPT1802's with the MCM system.  I do have a second KPT1802 and have been on the lookout for 2nd DTS10.

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