Klipsch104db Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I'm thinking about trading my 1990 La Scalas for Heresy IV and cash. I've owned the La Scalas for over 25 years and love them. I'm getting older and the mid and high frequencies are starting to fatigue my ears. I picked up a recapped Marantz 2270 that were powering the Heresys and I loved the sound. After negotiating with the person I got the Marantz from, he's ready to deal. If I do the deal I know I'm never going to find another pair of La Scalas for what I got them for. Any opinions out there? Quote
Klipsch104db Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, Klipsch104db said: I'm thinking about trading my 1990 La Scalas for Heresy IV and cash. I've owned the La Scalas for over 25 years and love them. I'm getting older and the mid and high frequencies are starting to fatigue my ears. I picked up a recapped Marantz 2270 that were powering the Heresys and I loved the sound. After negotiating with the person I got the Marantz from, he's ready to deal. If I do the deal I know I'm never going to find another pair of La Scalas for what I got them for. Any opinions out there? Quote
Dave MacKay Posted February 8 Posted February 8 The Heresy IV is a fine speaker but you’ll miss the La Scalas. I have a pair of La Scalas and a pair of Heresy speakers. The La Scalas have ruined me for other (smaller) speakers. I know I’ll have to move the LS along at some time in the future; that’ll be a sad day. 3 Quote
Klipsch104db Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, Dave MacKay said: The Heresy IV is a fine speaker but you’ll miss the La Scalas. I have a pair of La Scalas and a pair of Heresy speakers. The La Scalas have ruined me for other (smaller) speakers. I know I’ll have to move the LS.along at some time in the future; that’ll be a sad day. It would be like losing a lifelong friend. My La Scalas have given me sooo much listening pleasure of the years, but boy those Heresy IV sounded good. 1 Quote
wuzzzer Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Order a crossover rebuild kit from JEM Performance Audio. It’ll bring everything back to spec. I would highly suggest doing that before you get rid of them. 1 Quote
Klipsch104db Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 4 minutes ago, wuzzzer said: Order a crossover rebuild kit from JEM Performance Audio. It’ll bring everything back to spec. I would highly suggest doing that before you get rid of them. I have Crites A-4500Hz crossovers in them with Crites CT-125 tweeters. 2 Quote
Tom05 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Keep the Lascala’s , I’ve developed a sensitivity in my hearing also , for me it’s in the 2500hz range . You will find the problem will arise in all speakers that you listen to , and the severity will be very much volume dependent . The frequency response will be more or less the same in all good speakers , so there’s nothing to be gained by going to a Heresy . Find your problem frequency by playing test tones and attenuate that area by using equalization . Experiment with your tone control knobs on the beautiful 2270 , or set yourself up with an equalizer. Don’t give up on the Lascala , Yikes 🤓 1 Quote
YK Thom Posted February 8 Posted February 8 This may be the way to go. The new Hersey are superior to the older models. Things change in life including our tastes. They will also be easier to accommodate should you find yourself downsizing in the future. I'd give them another listen. 2 Quote
Peter P. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Good grief, somebody talk the OP off the ledge! 3 1 Quote
geoff. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 ya man, don’t do it I’ve had the great fortune to own five pairs of La Scalas over the years. In order to float new purchases I used to always have to sell them off before trying something new, to me. Without exception every time I listed a pair for sale there would be former La Scala owners chiming in lamenting their tales of woe and regret. 5 Quote
wuzzzer Posted February 8 Posted February 8 14 hours ago, Klipsch104db said: I have Crites A-4500Hz crossovers in them with Crites CT-125 tweeters. And that’s why you’re having midrange and treble fatigue. 3 Quote
geoff. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 17 hours ago, Klipsch104db said: After negotiating with the person I got the Marantz from, he's ready to deal. If I do the deal I know I'm never going to find another pair of La Scalas for what I got them for. Any opinions out there? …there’s a reason the guy with Heresy 4s wants a pair of La Scalas 7 Quote
Klipsch104db Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 Ok, since I hooked my La Scalas to my Marantz 2270 I got last weekend it sounds muddy. When I stand off to the side it sounded better. The positive negative wires were reversed on the left speaker. DUH!!!🙄 The 70watts gives them that extra headroom, more punch. Something I've always liked about Marantz is the mid tone control. I turned it to 10:00. Toned the mids down a bit. Gary Numan-The Pleasure Principle!!!!!!! I might not trading after all. 18 hours ago, Klipsch104db said: I'm thinking about trading my 1990 La Scalas for Heresy IV and cash. I've owned the La Scalas for over 25 years and love them. I'm getting older and the mid and high frequencies are starting to fatigue my ears. I picked up a recapped Marantz 2270 that were powering the Heresys and I loved the sound. After negotiating with the person I got the Marantz from, he's ready to deal. If I do the deal I know I'm never going to find another pair of La Scalas for what I got them for. Any opinions out there? 4 Quote
geoff. Posted February 8 Posted February 8 4 hours ago, wuzzzer said: And that’s why you’re having midrange and treble fatigue. There may something to this… The Crites autoformer is an honest 3 dB of attenuation, the Klipsch T2A is 3.35 dB. Enough to hear maybe not, but combined with the Sonicaps would definitely result in a brighter presentation. I still own a pair of Crites A/4500s with the Sonicaps. First aftermarket crossover I tried. I have since built literally dozens of different boards for my La Scalas, one of which was an A/4500 using the Klipsch T2A and polyester caps. It was very smooth compared to the original A/4500. I have tried various “swamped” autoformer crossovers: three different ALK versions, John Warren’s, a couple DJK versions. I am currently using an AA/4500 design from Mike Boxler using polyester caps but intend to build one using polypropylenes for a slightly brighter presentation. 4 Quote
82 Cornwalls Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Klipsch104db said: Ok, since I hooked my La Scalas to my Marantz 2270 I got last weekend..... The 70watts gives them that extra headroom, more punch. What were you using before? (me scratching head) Quote
YK Thom Posted February 9 Posted February 9 You can't go wrong with the The Pleasure Principle. One of my faves since it was released. Seems your issue is sorted. Good stuff. 1 Quote
Klipsch104db Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 3 hours ago, 82 Cornwalls said: What were you using before? (me scratching head) Mcintosh C26 preamp and Decware SE84UFO. I also have Quicksilver Horn Mono. I'm using those with my Forte II. I traded the Mcintosh for the Marantz 2270. The Marantz blows the Mcintosh Decware combo away. 3 Quote
KT88 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 If the LaScala is set up right, I mean right for your taste as far as the xover is concerned, then it is one of the best speakers I know. I only have a handful of speakers: a small LS3/5a, a medium-sized LS3/6, both BBC speakers. Then a big Tannoy Canterbury with a 15’ Alnico, two pairs of Quad 57 ESLs, a 1977 LaScala and a 1973 Klipschorn. Of course, I know a lot of speakers that I don't have myself. The LaScala is an exceptionally good speaker. I wouldn't trade it for a speaker that combines a conventional bass with midrange and tweeter horns. On the amp side I have two Mcintosh power amps, a MC 275 and a MC2102, a C22CE pre amp, old Quad tube amps, old Leak tube amps, and several young only 35 to 40 year old Quad transistor pre and power amps and a Marantz 2270 that I inherited from my uncle and that has been restored by a specialist. A few other devices as well. The LaScala sounds awesome with most amps. The Marantz does it brilliantly and so do the Quad transistors. There is hardly a speaker like the LaScala that allows delicacy and a fantastic transition from the midrange horn to the bass horn to sound so seamless and natural. It is, absurdly, as good as the BBC speaker in this respect. The only difference is that the LaScala are powerful when the BBC speakers are out of breath. If I had to give everything away and could only keep two speakers, the LaScala would be one of them; the other one is the small LS3/5a, which can't reproduce low bass either. Personally, I'm less and less of a low bass fanatic. It could be my age, but I'm more in the middle of the frequency range. The LaScala conjures up such a fantastic sound in the room in the frequencies where it can play. If your LaScala is gone, it's gone and you'll cry, in a week or in four weeks. Quote
Woofers and Tweeters Posted February 10 Posted February 10 20 hours ago, Klipsch104db said: I traded the Mcintosh for the Marantz 2270. The Marantz blows the Mcintosh Decware combo away I have had both of those models. Since the 2270 was recapped, you did well. I upgraded my C26 to the C32. I need to recap my 2270. If the LS are tuned in (wired right lol) then I would AB them with the Heresy IV using the Marantz in the same room and at the same time. Willing to bet that the grass is greener where you are. lol Quote
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