MacKlipsch Posted June 3, 2001 Share Posted June 3, 2001 Dear Klipsch Braintrust, I realize that I'm getting ahead of myself here, but nonetheless, what will I use for a center channel when I mortgage the house and get my set of Jubilees? Have always had a center Belle with my K-horns and really need it to fill in my long wall. I guess I could back to back the K-horns. What do I do with the Belle. Someone help me out....I'm tweaking here....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Spot Posted June 3, 2001 Share Posted June 3, 2001 Mac, Why not pick up another Belle and make a very competitive surround system? FOR A FREAKING STADIUM!!!! ..... ------------------ Get your butt out of my chair!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossVTaylor Posted June 3, 2001 Share Posted June 3, 2001 I had the chance to spend a couple of days in the Klipsch theater a few months ago, along with some of the group here. Klipsch had a pair of Jubilees mated with a Belle center. It was an INCREDIBLE setup! Even watching the Matrix on a smallish tube TV was a phenominal experience because of the incredible sound. This really proved to me how important sound is to the whole "movie-going" experience. When the Jubilees come out, I think the Belle or a LaScala would be the ideal center. I do like the way you think! Ross ------------------ "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Reed Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 Actually, you could use another Jubilee for the center, as they don't require corner placement. Of course, this is overkill. But hey, that's what we're all about here, isn't it? Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 uh, Tony... Are you talking about the Pro Audio division's KPT-Jubilee "Stage and Screen Loudspeaker system" ( <a href='/images/productmedia/large/187_large.jpg'><img height='200' width='150' src='/images/productmedia/medium/187_medium.jpg' align='middle' border='0'></a> ) or do you know something about the upcoming Home Audio Jubilee (aka Klipschorn version II) that the rest of us don't know??? Ray ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex336 Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 WOW---didn't know till now that the new jubilee does not require a corner.......hmmm, wish money was not such a problem! ------------------ Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 ...oops... sorry about the botched link, was trying to link to this... http://www.klipsch.com/images/productmedia/large/187_large.jpg Ray "technologically challenged" Garrison ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 This message has been edited by dougdrake on 06-04-2001 at 03:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Reed Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 Well.... I guess the cat's outta the bag. I thought everyone knew! Leave it to me... Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 I just picked up another pair of Klipschorns, for just that reason. One will be for the center channel with a screen in front of it for a front projector. the other one will be used for a center rear channel. This means I'll be building a new room that will give me six 90 degree corners, and not necesarily in the corners. Figure that one out. Q. ------------------ Q-Man This message has been edited by Q-Man on 06-04-2001 at 12:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Q-Man: This means I'll be building a new room that will give me six 90 degree corners, and not necesarily in the corners. Figure that one out. Q. Cool! I guess if you're building a room it would be fairly easy to put in a niche in the center of the front and rear walls that has 45 degree angles on the front corners, giving you a 90 degree rear corner. Pretty slick! Only 1 question -- what do you do with the other side of that niche (i.e. what room(s) do they intrude upon)? I guess the walls could be used as an art gallery . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKlipsch Posted June 4, 2001 Author Share Posted June 4, 2001 Q-man, Are the center walls going to be full size or pony walls? In a surround system the center channel is not set 6db below the corners right? I'm a 2 channel guy and use mine that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 The Jubilees we heard in Hope should really be considered prototypes. They used the pro bottom and the pro tweeter on a new horn. The Home Jubilees will probably be modified from the ones we heard. They will have an nice wooden tweeter horn using the pro tweeter driver. It will not have a squawker like the pro system has and the bottom will look just the same, but with wood finishes and maybe black like the pro version. They had a POWERFUL sound and the tweeter can throw a very good stereo image. A Belle made a great center channel speaker and I believe we used K-horns as the ultimate rear channel speakers! Gunshots made my pants legs move! John This message has been edited by John Albright on 06-04-2001 at 03:33 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 Dougdrake, Your right. The front center channel niche will go from floor to ceiling, because of the screen. The front main speaker corners (niche) will be silghtly higher then the Klipschorns. They will also be held off the back wall about 3 1/2'. This is required to toe them into the sweet spot & to also provide shelves for the LaScalas hooked up to the front effect channels. The rear set up is about the same,but all 3 niches will be the same height, just above the Klipschorns.The rear center aimed stright ahead. The left & right rears aimed more towards eash other. Then this too provides me with a ledge to place a second pair of rear speakers aimed down the side walls, another pair of LaScalas. This is still in the planning stages. I have rough plans drawn & made my first call to the local building code department today. I know I'm putting the cart before the horse, but I got a good deal on another pair of Klipschorns that are within driving distance. I wasn't going to start this project for another year or two, but here we go. MacKlipsch, If I understand your question correctly. Yes, you set all your speaker to the same volume as your mains. You do this with a sound level meter from your main listening spot. Q. ------------------ Q-Man This message has been edited by Q-Man on 06-04-2001 at 07:12 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 Well, I'll be stickler and point out that a room has eight and not four 1/8th space corners. Of course I'm counting the ceiling. This observation does no good for Q-Man's project though. Am I reading the spec for the Jubilee theater speaker correctly? Tests are run in 1/2 space. If so the output could be better in 1/4 space at a floor wall intersection. That makes a good argument for center placement. On the other hand, the theater Jubilee can probably be considered two half Jubilee's stacked on top of each other. So, arguably, you could chop one in half, put it in 1/4 space, and get the same bass response as advertised for the full theater unit in 1/2 space. Something to ponder. Gil Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 Mac, If the belle ends up "odd man out" drop me a line...however I am sure you will keep it to fill between the jubilees...besdies a la scala and maybe a cornwall your choices would seem to be limited...unless PWK has a center channel waiting in the wings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted June 4, 2001 Share Posted June 4, 2001 Very interesting to read about your planned "six-corner'd room", Q-Man. I had drawn up a five corner music room, (three front / two back), to build in the basement of our house, but decided I could not afford the wasted space a full triangular alcove would create in the rest of the basement, as I also wanted space for a family room and a play room. I ended up with an alcove in the middle of the front wall, in between my cornerhorns, but it is a truncated triangle, with 45 degree walls only extending to a depth of a foot and a half behind the front wall. This allows enough room for a belle klipsch to serve center channel duty w/o extending much, if any beyond the front wall. Now if only I could find a good oak belle! Anyway, good luck with the project, and keep us updated on your progress. Especially pics when completed. ------------------ JDMcCall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Q-Man: I just picked up another pair of Klipschorns, for just that reason. One will be for the center channel with a screen in front of it for a front projector. the other one will be used for a center rear channel. This means I'll be building a new room that will give me six 90 degree corners, and not necesarily in the corners. Figure that one out. Q. Erm - wow!! That should be quite a system. You may want to consider not building proper corners for these extra 2 but using a 90 degree corner made of freestanding marble or something. It would save you building an alcove but you would lose some space inside the room itself. I will be happy if my next house has a room with 2 corners for KHorns let alone 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Double WOW, Q-Man!! Six corners to eat standing waves!? Sounds like you have an architectural "Star of David" approach to HT. How about posting a drawing of this sonic marvel with the placement and type of Klipsch accoutrements? HornEd This message has been edited by HornEd on 06-05-2001 at 07:31 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Horn Ed, Look under Odds & Mods, Q-mans system. I brought up an old post that shows you the current set up. I will post drawings of the new room as I get further along. Q. ------------------ Q-Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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