Klipsch RF7 Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hi Guys, What is it about these older mid 70's SS recievers? My buddy borrowed his dad's old Marantz 1975 50 watts per channel 2 channel reciever and we hooked up some RF-3's and OMG, that thing has some balls. I mean the bass is so deep and powerful, its not bright or edgy and not lacking any gusto. Its like the reciever is putting out some juice to these speakers. Heck the RF-3's and the Marantz sound more beefier and thicker than my RF-7's on my Rotel Reciever The sound is really warm and laid back, lots of bass thoughout the range and powerful. What makes these recievers so beefy and so much braun? Will the Scott 299-C tube amp bring some guts and gusto to my RF-7's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 ---------------- On 12/29/2003 6:33:10 PM Georg Friedrich Handel wrote: Hi Guys, What is it about these older mid 70's SS recievers? My buddy borrowed his dad's old Marantz 1975 50 watts per channel 2 channel reciever and we hooked up some RF-3's and OMG, that thing has some balls. I mean the bass is so deep and powerful, its not bright or edgy and not lacking any gusto. Its like the reciever is putting out some juice to these speakers. Heck the RF-3's and the Marantz sound more beefier and thicker than my RF-7's on my Rotel Reciever The sound is really warm and laid back, lots of bass thoughout the range and powerful. What makes these recievers so beefy and so much braun? Will the Scott 299-C tube amp bring some guts and gusto to my RF-7's?---------------- Check out a 70's vintage Sansui 9090DB if you want to hear some umphhh from an old SS receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 My Kenwood KR-9600 is like that also (160/channel). I still use it as a tuner. For 25 years it served me well. Tubes are just better with Klipsch though. A year ago I thought I had the best sounding system around. Then I got the scott, then the macs, then the marantz, then the fisher....... keeps going and going and going......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. patrick Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 George-Fred, take a look at classic-audio.com, classicaudio.com and audioclassics.com for more on the marantz warm sound from the 70's. Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted December 29, 2003 Author Share Posted December 29, 2003 Cool guys, does it have to do with the current that the reciever puts out? I mean the watts per channel is only 50 watts but we had it at quarter volume and it was rocking, cant imagine it at half volume. Do the older recievers just pump out alot more amps and current? Why dont the new recievers sound like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted December 29, 2003 Author Share Posted December 29, 2003 Check out a 70's vintage Sansui 9090DB if you want to hear some umphhh from an old SS receiver. ---------------- I saw one on ebay and its going for $310 right now with 8 bids on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 It has to do with that 70's mojo, baby! P.S. I have a Sansui 8080DB I'd let go for a very reasonable amount, if there were interest. I'd have to pull it from the fini vault to check its functionality (LOTS of 70's receivers in there, BTW). Let me know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Georg, It's not Watts, it's the quality of the low power output. Most transistor amps have high distortion at the low powers used by Klipsch speakers (tube amps tend to be at their best at such powers). That's why people tend to recommend tub amps for Klipsch speakers. Now and then a decent ss amp is found. Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted December 29, 2003 Author Share Posted December 29, 2003 ---------------- On 12/29/2003 7:54:03 PM fini wrote: It has to do with that 70's mojo, baby! P.S. I have a Sansui 8080DB I'd let go for a very reasonable amount, if there were interest. I'd have to pull it from the fini vault to check its functionality (LOTS of 70's receivers in there, BTW). Let me know... ---------------- Make a list of what you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 This is consistent with my limited experience. I use a low power Sony and a low power JVC receiver of '70s vintage. No complaints from me or the amps. The only recent addition is a Sony shoe box sized CD/Tuner/amp combo. The shoe box sized speakers are rated at 4 ohms. So I figured the amp was too. In any event, the unit sounds good with the Forte II in a small room. I have maxed out the gain control. Pretty loud and I could probably use more in a bigger room. But it is okay. Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 ---------------- On 12/29/2003 8:05:04 PM Georg Friedrich Handel wrote: ---------------- On 12/29/2003 7:54:03 PM fini wrote: It has to do with that 70's mojo, baby! P.S. I have a Sansui 8080DB I'd let go for a very reasonable amount, if there were interest. I'd have to pull it from the fini vault to check its functionality (LOTS of 70's receivers in there, BTW). Let me know... ---------------- Make a list of what you have ---------------- Will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2dx Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 IMHO, the '70's Marantz SS receivers are really special. I have a 2325 packed away in my vault. It weighs about 50 lbs and is rated at 125 WPC. It can produce bass with slam. But it's still clean at very low (klipsch) average levels. And in a dark room the appearance is hard to beat. The heavy flywheel gyro tuning feels great. These Marantz receivers are waiting to be rediscovered. You couldn't go wrong with a clean one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg928gts Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Be careful, all you have to do is transpose two numbers to 2235 and you've got a dud. Not all the old Marantz receivers are as nice as the 2325. Great unit. I had one for a few months and it really sounded wonderful. The tuner knob mechanism was the best. I've got an old Pioneer 1010 that was a beast in it's day. I'll be selling it shortly if anyone is interested. It's in great shape and works perfectly, all lights, buttons, knobs, clean glass, good wood, nothing missing, and the tuner pulls in stations without an antennae. Actually a much better tuner than my McIntosh MR77 at bringing in stations. $185 double boxed and carefully packed, plus actual ground shipping cost. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 I've got a 2325 stored away too. Beautiful piece. Georg that Marantz was made when men were men and Marantz' were Marantz'. Shortly thereafter Sony bought the brand and ba$tardized them into junk with a quality name. I still drag out the 2325 sometimes and play it on the Khorns when I think I need a little real rock and roll. I don't know wether I'd describe it as dynamic or dynomite. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Anderson Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Sold my 2325 3 years ago at a garage sale. $50 w/ walnut cabinet not working w/ intermittent audio....Great sound with my Cornwalls from 1976-2000. Before I heard of eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2dx Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Jon, Sometimes the speaker protective relays can require contact cleaning, especially if inactive for extended periods. The relay is in a clear cover. Caig De-Oxit is a good thing to protect the contacts.... I know your Marantz is gone but if anyone else encounters a lack of audio on one or both channels....sometimes clicking the unit on/off waiting for the relay to energize is a quick test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 Back in '79 when my dad bought the Cornwalls I own now, he had a 1978 Technics SA-700 receiver that was 100 WPC, with a humungous power tranny and two 15,000uF electrolytic caps...from what I remember, the sound from his system was simply awesome! Then he traded in the receiver for a 1979 Technics SU-8099 DC integrated amp (115 WPC)...the Cornwalls sounded magnificent with all that vintage SS power. My '83 Carver M-400t and '96 TFM-35x (@ 201 and 250 WPC respectively), and my '92 SAE A205 (200 WPC) didn't sound nearly as clean as the '70s Technics. Had to buy a vintage McIntosh amp to get that same full sound that the Carvers and the SAE lacked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 BTW, has anyone mentioned the classic harman/kardon HK430 and its siblings? Many owners of these SS receivers are Klipsch owners as well, and they swear by 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch RF7 Posted December 30, 2003 Author Share Posted December 30, 2003 Oh yeah, great stuff. The model he has is the Marantz 2275 stereophonic reciever. It will sometimes make loud popping sounds out of the left channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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