NBPK402 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, avguytx said: I just noticed your location. My dad and ex step mother lived in San Miguel de Allende after they sold their big ranch in Virginia Dale, Colorado. They lived for a couple of years and sold the place after someone poisoned one of their dogs (German Shepherd) and dad got sick of it. They had a beautiful location. But, they were ready to travel and sold that place, bought a Prevost, and traveled in that for awhile. Eventually bought another ranch in Westcliffe, CO and divorced soon afterwards. lol But it's a beautiful place, I hear. Me personally, I was happy building mine out of Baltic Birch and putting veneer on them versus having to connect solid pieces of wood via biscuit joint, etc. I don't see there being a major advantage in using solid for the amount of work it would take. Also, the doghouse (center section) doesn't really need to be any thicker than 3/4" as it's pretty solid with the shape that it is. Maybe the outside and back walls of the cabinet but just make sure you don't change any of the dimensions on the horn flare as it exits. Sorry to hear that your parents dog was poisoned:( We agree it is beautiful here, and we are loving it. On the doghouse...Does anyone put stuffing or Roxul inside it? I do not know why t is done other than to make the speaker them into the box is bigger than it does. Does stuffing it stop the back wave, and clean up the sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Don't put anything inside the doghouse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codewritinfool Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Don't put anything inside the doghouse.I completely agree. Don’t attempt it, you’ll only make it bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Thanks for the info on the doghouse everyone. I will leave it empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelt Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Prior to mdf being introduced in the 80s Belles were constructed of solid core lumber (yellow popular) panels then veneered with walnut, oak or whatever was ordered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 11/2/2018 at 5:57 AM, Skelt said: solid core lumber What I see on the ends of my 1980s Klipsch speaker panels are approx. 1 1/2" x 1/2" strips of wood glued together (butcher block style) then laminated with reinforcing veneer, then covered with the attractive surface veneer. I believe the wood industry calls these "lumber core" panels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 MDF works good as long as it never gets wet and the finished cabinet is not dropped by careless handling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: What I see on the ends of my 1980s Klipsch speaker panels are approx. 1 1/2" x 1/2" strips of wood glued together (butcher block style) then laminated with reinforcing veneer, then covered with the attractive surface veneer. I believe the wood industry calls these "lumber core" panels. Like this? http://www.hooddistribution.com/plywood-core-types/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Yes, the second one down on that list. My 35 year old Klipschorn panels are still perfectly flat and solid, after all those yearly humidity swing cycles. MDF does have its good points, though. It is dense, flat and your saw blade cuts are very consistent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Yes, the second one down on that list. My 35 year old Klipschorn panels are still perfectly flat and solid, after all those yearly humidity swing cycles. MDF does have its good points, though. It is dense, flat and your saw blade cuts are very consistent.I will have to check that out for my Belles... looks to me like it might be better than BB, if I can get it locally in Mexico.Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelt Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 That Web site says that the lumber core "plywood" are mostly found on imported panels. The species used for the core is an unknown and may have knots and other defects covered by the veneer.Yellow Popular is simular to hard maple as a cabinet material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 That Web site says that the lumber core "plywood" are mostly found on imported panels. The species used for the core is an unknown and may have knots and other defects covered by the veneer.Yellow Popular is simular to hard maple as a cabinet material.Maybe the MDF core would be better?Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelt Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Maybe the MDF core would be better?Sent from my SM-T550 using TapatalkSorry but I don't have that answer as to which is better. I've haven't made anything using mdf. I was just commenting on how my 1975 Belles were constructed using Popular as the core.There are several Amish sawmills, flooring shops, cabinet makers near me that I have used for some projects. Poplar is often used where an inexpensive, easy to work hardwood is called for.The flooring shop does an excellent gluing up panels and planing to thickness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Sorry but I don't have that answer as to which is better. I've haven't made anything using mdf. I was just commenting on how my 1975 Belles were constructed using Popular as the core.There are several Amish sawmills, flooring shops, cabinet makers near me that I have used for some projects. Poplar is often used where an inexpensive, easy to work hardwood is called for.The flooring shop does an excellent gluing up panels and planing to thickness.Thanks, if I still lived in California... I would have no problem getting great plywood. I can get exotic hardwoods, but plywood appears to be a problem if you want good stuff.Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 19 hours ago, ellisr63 said: I can get exotic hardwoods, Which exotic hardwoods are readily available to you in Mexico? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Which exotic hardwoods are readily available to you in Mexico?I will have to check, but I know there were quite a few Mexican, and South American. I know Mesquite is very popular here, and not too expensive.Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, ellisr63 said: I know Mesquite is very popular here, and not too expensive. and of course, you could also use it on your bbq.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 You know I never would have thought about Mesquite, but it is a nice very heavy wood. A friend has their furniture, and doors made out of it. I have seen larggggge 4" thick table tops that were $5k out of Mesquite, and they were beautiful. A friend was telling me to have my speakers made out of it, but I am worried about the wood splitting. I could have 2 layers of Mesquite with a layer of plywood in between I guess. and of course, you could also use it on your bbq....Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 45 minutes ago, ellisr63 said: A friend has their furniture, and doors made out of it. I just checked out some pictures of Mexican Mesquite lumber. Your speakers would be good looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 32 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: I just checked out some pictures of Mexican Mesquite lumber. Your speakers would be good looking. Maybe I should do Mesquite... here is a pic of some other speakers made of Mesquite. The main part to be concerned with for being sealed is the doghouse, right? Hardness is just below Brazilian Cherry too. I think that is hard enough...whatcha think? Does anyone have a drawing of the braces for each side?https://goo.gl/images/AAo1Hv Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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