Parrot Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 http://www.enjoythemusic.com/ces2005/saturday/ The turntable price isn't so bad because it includes the stand at no extra cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Paul, You missed the cheapo $45,000 speakersv just below the TT. I like things like this - it all makes me feel so retrained in my audio madness...positively parsimonious with my system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Precision Audio Labs out of local Colorado introduced their first speaker system at CES. Now that they have a distributor or 2 lined up, they had to raise the price from $60k/pair to $70k/pair to cover distribution expenses. Darn, and I was all ready to buy a pair at $60k. Guess I gotta skip a couple more weeks of Starbucks to make up the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSJ Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Do real people really own such things? Is this something like a concept car, not really for sale just for looking? To me it looks like something from the space program. WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 ---------------- On 1/9/2005 2:39:41 PM JSJ wrote: Do real people really own such things? Is this something like a concept car, not really for sale just for looking? To me it looks like something from the space program. WOW! ---------------- They probably sell a few, but I can't imagine there's much of a market. Speaking of the space program, remember the gold-plated record that Carl Sagan and others sent off into space on the Voyager? http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html The instructions for playing the record, etched into the surface of the disc itself, are a little difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 O.K., I guess, for a second system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 After looking in the M9 its hard to believe they can sell this thing so cheap,looks like a real bargain. The TT on the other hand looks like they cut some corners,58k tops. I really like the speakers w/ballbearings,Rock & Roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I suppose I could sell my house and buy a nice tent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 JSJ brings up a good point, do actual people buy these components at these ridiculously high prices? How do these manufacturers justify charging as much as they do, and how do they continue to stay in business when only a few units are sold each year? Do they also sell components at real down-to-earth prices? WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai2000 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 That's why good ol' Thorens TTs are great bargains - which can also sound pretty good . Wolfram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 ---------------- On 1/9/2005 5:28:47 PM jt1stcav wrote: How do these manufacturers justify charging as much as they do, and how do they continue to stay in business when only a few units are sold each year? ---------------- If you make, let's say, $65,000 over parts cost on one preamp, and you sell 3 of them, you make as much as if you sell 390 preamps at $500 over the cost of the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I believe the majority of us have awesome sounding systems that didn't require a second mortgage in order to own them! All my gear was bought on a strict budget (read: extremely low prices), and I think overall it can hang with nearly the best of 'em in sound quality. I know it's not the best; far from it...But I can't see paying these kind of exuberant prices for anything (a house, a car, or for audio), even if I had the dough! Then again, talk is cheap...If I was loaded, who's to say I wouldn't splurg a little (we all would, I reckon). But then I'd buy Craig's VRDs, Mark's Peach, a new pair of Klipschorns, and a $1200 clearaudio 'table and Sumiko's Blue Point Special...all nice stuff that's not priced out of this world! Just my two cents (because that's all I have)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 There are more than a few people who can easily afford that type of gear (I'm putting aside, of course, questions of value). On the other hand, please try to remember the number of people who think spending $2000 - $7500 (my guess on the avg. range cost of our systems) is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I dont think we are getting the message here. These are generally statement products - built to represent what the manufacturer believes is the absolute best that can be made at the time - regardless of cost. They are not really aimed to be sold themselves - I think any sales of these products are just a bonus to the manufacturer. The idea is that the technology and developments made in building these then trickles down into the more normal offerings of the companies. Of course the statement products come into their own in exhibitions. Invariably they are shown in giant rooms with staggering surrounding gear with total values of in excess of $100,000. You hear these - then in a neighbouring room you hear the more normal versions - with the very same berylium tweeter - for example (guess the make) and you buy that on the basis that you can hear much of the big system in the little system. There are companies, of course, that seem to occupy only these lofty heights - but even they have a range of products - so of which are only ridiculously expensive as opposed to third world dept expensive (Avantgarde, Wilson, Krell etc. etc.) Recently I have been looking at the turntables from the company Transrotor. Interesting case in point. The range starts at an almost reasonable 1800 euros. At 2000-4000 euros there seems to be over a dozen choices. 4-10000 and another 5 or six choices then one at around 25,000, one at 40,000 and one at 70,000. the 25,000 euro table was the statement product a few years ago, then the 40,000 unit and now the 70,000. Those are not the models I am looking at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Has anyone heard the $10,000 entry model turntable that elp of japan puts out? It reads the vinyl like a laser disk player, therefore no more wear on your records! Just curious, I've only seen it on the web from one of those look what I stumbled onto google searches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Thanks, Max, for the explanation. Oldtimer, it seems I read that player does not do well with records that are not mint and that are not very clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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