HondaGuy Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well if I decide to go with the RF-7's which by the sounds of it would be much better, I won't beable to get them for a few more months and I might want to look at a higher end amp also. How cheap do you think I could get a pair of the RF-7's? (new in box) EDIT Ouch I just looked at the dimensions of the RF-7, this might be a problem, I might beable to work it but they are very deep. I might have to do a little furniture rearranging to make them fit in here. EDIT Ok I can't pull this off I'm going to have to go with a bookshelf speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 So between the RB-35 and the RB-75.. the 75 would be my best bet for a bookshelf speaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgeraci Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 ---------------- On 3/22/2005 2:05:18 PM HondaGuy wrote: So between the RB-35 and the RB-75.. the 75 would be my best bet for a bookshelf speaker? ---------------- Yes. As Bill indicated, the RB-75 has a much better compression driver than the RB-35. I previously owned a pair of RB-75s, and the improved horn (over the RB-35) was well worth the difference in price. I ended up trading my RB-75s for some vintage stereo gear, but they would be my choice if I was again in the market for bookshelves. Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Whether you go with the 75s or the 35s, the DRA-395 is a tad more flexible as it has a phono section. dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 Can someone clue me in on Signal to Noise Ratio? I'm looking at these really high end amps and I'm only seeing that they are 85-92db SNR, and I look at cheaper ones and I notice they are 100db or more... Whats the deal? Are cheaper amps measured in a way that isn't measuring their true output or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erukian Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 SNR is just marketting talk, most people don't know what it is, so it really doesn't matter in the end, because it doesnt have anything to do with how dynamic and natural the sound that comes out of the amp is. Specs are a means to an end, i noticed you mostly get for what you pay. If your getting the RB-75's, I recommend a great amp like the Teac AL-700P. but that's from my own experience. A lot of people also recommend you pick up a Harman Kardon 430 off ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'd like to keep the amplifier cost under $500 what would be my best choice, I want something new not used. I was thinking the Cambridge Audio Azur series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customsteve01 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 The Cambridge Audio looks pretty good on paper but without auditioning it its hard to tell. I would bet you could get the Marantz PM7200 for right at $500.00. And like Erukian said, "you mostly get what you pay for". There are probable at least a dozen or more good amps in the price range you are looking at and with the features you want. Go listen to them and buy what you are happy with. I believe we all hear differently, I know I do from working around airplanes for ever. We can only make suggestions, if your looking for someone to say go buy this youll be happy with it, I don't think many around here will tell you that. If you notice all the people in here have very diverse systems and we all think out systems sound good to us for the most part. Go buy what sounds good to you and let us know how you like it. Just my $.02 Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 signal to noise measurements can be very helpful, but they are only one of many indicators of performance that have to be taken into consideration. SS amp manufacturers usually take measurements at close to (close to not at) max power where their distortion is lowest. At 1 Watt and below, these measurements would be far worse for many amps, so those numbers are not quoted. Sometimes s/n graphs are shown down to 1 Watt ar a half Watt or lower, and you begin to get an idea about how the amp will sound on efficient speakers at moderate volume. But again, those are only indicators to help you decide what to audition (not what to buy). I suggest you get the speakers then begin auditioning amps. Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 ---------------- On 3/22/2005 5:11:46 PM leok wrote: signal to noise measurements can be very helpful, but they are only one of many indicators of performance that have to be taken into consideration. SS amp manufacturers usually take measurements at close to (close to not at) max power where their distortion is lowest. At 1 Watt and below, these measurements would be far worse for many amps, so those numbers are not quoted. Sometimes s/n graphs are shown down to 1 Watt ar a half Watt or lower, and you begin to get an idea about how the amp will sound on efficient speakers at moderate volume. But again, those are only indicators to help you decide what to audition (not what to buy). I suggest you get the speakers then begin auditioning amps. Leo ---------------- So what I should do is get the speakers and then bring them to a high end audio store and try them on various amps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydaman Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Honda Guy, go on less vacations, sell the honda, buy a Kia, eat mac and cheese, do what you can to save and buy the newest Khorns you can afford. Tear out the kids room sleep 6 to a room. build a dedicated room with true corners and Never look back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Use the amp you have. It may be a bit rough, but possibly a nice surprise. Over time, borrow a few amps of different types and begin to get a sense for what sounds good to you. It's worth taking some time to get to understand what these speakers can do and what sounds best for you. Many stores and web retailers have returns policies and sometimes loaners for exactly this purpose. You might pick up a cheap (and I mean cheap) Class-T amp to hear what that's all about (check elsewhere on this site). Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm only 20 and I'm not a millionaire, thoes Khorns cost about $6000 don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydaman Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 HG, I don't mean that you have to buy the Khorns soon. It took me until I was 40 to have the cash to buy a pair brand new. Just set your sights on that, demo a pair and that will carry you through until you can afford them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottscay Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 For what it's worth, I'm currently running four rb-35s as surrounds (I couldn't afford 4 rb-75s!). My reciever can reassign two of my 7.1 surrounds as fronts, so just for fun I did that so I could a/b them against my rf-35s. They do a pretty darned decent job, too. I have a large room with atrocious acoustics, so I really need floorstanders as mains (and I REALLY need rf-7s, when I can save up for them), but the rb-35s would sound quite good in an apartment. I have done an a/b comparison of the rb-75s and the rb-35s in a store demo room. Obviously it's an artificial setting, but there was a noticeable improvement in sound with the rb-75s, so if you can afford them, I'd recommend them. If not the rb-35s aren't exactly shabby. Just my 2 cents; good luck! Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Wow I found the Marantz PM7200 on Cambridge SoundWorks website for $499, good deal? http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?item=m1pm7200&adcode=WFROOGLEB3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 ---------------- On 3/23/2005 1:17:51 PM HondaGuy wrote: Wow I found the Marantz PM7200 on Cambridge SoundWorks website for $499, good deal? http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?item=m1pm7200&adcode=WFROOGLEB3 ---------------- Greetings: Quality wise, IMHO, I think you might be able to do better. But I have not read all of the first page after I wrote. If you have an amp you may want to save. Leo gives good advice. dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 HONDAGUY: You have email. dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HondaGuy Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 I seem to have run into another problem with the placement of the RB-75's.. Exactly how close can they go to a direct view TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffgeorge Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Theoretically, the can go right up next to the TV cabinet, because they are video shielded. I would caution you to move them as far as possible and move them forward, or backward with a blue screen on your set. This will show you if there is going to be any detriment to your screen. Reason 1. They will have better soundstaging and imaging if farther apart. Reason 2. I have had experience with the RB-3's (predessor to the RB-25's) - I had one right next to my Panasonic 36" TV, and now it has a green spot in the lower corner of my screen, which will not go away. I don't think that the magnetic shielding Klipsch uses always works real well... in my experience, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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