Speedball Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Which one would you choose.........widescreen or regular screen and why? I need a new monitor because this one is on it's last leg and I can barely read anything on this new Klipsch forum. Not only is the monitor going out our computer is so old it does not allow you to choose between font sizes. We are trying to decide between a 19" - 20" - 21" inch LCD monitors. I appreciate anyone having input on this matter!...[] If someone could convince me to go CRT that would be OK too because that is what we have been using for about 5 years. .......drat! ......something else to go wrong when the $$$ could be used for audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I've used a 21" crt at work for last 5 years. Ran it at over 2,000 resolution (don't recall the number) I loved it. New office, new look..wife says big screen has GOTTA go, it hogs all my desk space. Just put in last week an Apple (for pc) 23" flatscreen. Needed new dvi card to go with it. It's a wide screen. I don't have it at as high of resolution but it seems I can have two pages open side by side. it runs at 1920x1200 resolution and I wish it'd go higher. That said, I DO think it's a VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY nice monitor. Very simple, very elegant. Go thin monitor & get as big as your wallet allows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 Go thin monitor & get as big as your wallet allows. That is what I'm sort of thinking now......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 If I had the cash I would go wide screen, but that's me. I would like to beable to watch dvd's in wide screen. I like to watch a movie from time to time on my puter. It's got amazing resolution. I can't imagine what a dvi would do for my viewing. I got a crt analog flat screen and looks real good. Plus gaming would be cool if your into that sort of thing. I think it would be nice on some web pages you wouldn't have to use the little slider bar on the bottom to see whats' to the right. My main reason would be for more space and what would be compadable I wouldn't know, but what would work probally would look great. If your just a web cruizer maybe a regular one would be better I don't really know. Man I said would alot......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I think wheelman has a good point. It is time to start getting equipped for widescreen movies and other media. Of course it depends on your wallet. I made an emergency purchase of a widescreen Compaq laptop a year ago. An X1000 - X1300. I was on the road and the long serving laptop died. The widescreen was a demo, on sale, at Office Depot. The widescreen works well for normal applications like word processing and spreadsheets. Movies on CD look very good. I think I'll never not buy anything but a widescreen for home, office, etc. Best, Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Widescreen if your going HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooting_monkey Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Apple Cinema screens are pretty mediocre from a technical standpoint.Their contrast ratio is average, color is off, response time is horrible (26ms) and there is no OSD. That's a pretty big design flaw. A comercial monitor that can't be calibrated easily because you can't get a numerical value for your brightness, contrast, color settings, ect. Also have to say the power/dvi/usb/firewire cable is the worst idea ever. Now if you have a tall tower, the outboard power brick is dangling a good 4 inches from the ground. And who uses an outboard power brick on good lcds these days? Oh yeah, and don't bother getting it if you plan on watching HD-DVD or Blue Ray, because so far it seems like they both use Intel based DRM, and that means there is encryption from the source all the way to the monitor / tv. Just buy a 4:3 lcd and save ur pennies for a widescreen when they become better and incorperate Intel DRM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I'm gonna go against the grain here & say go for CRT. You can get a nice 19" Viewsonic for a lot less than an LCD, and it'll last a long time. No response time problems either. BTW, I'm in a pretty similar situation. I have a 19" Viewsonic that's starting to have color issues. Occasionaly some whites have a green tinge to them for a minute. Not terribbly bad yet, but I'm keeping an eye on it. Not bad considering the monitor is around 10yrs old and this is the only problem I've ever had with it. I like the size of the LCDs, but I wouldn't be able to live with the slow response time issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Thanks for all the input/replies guys. After looking at all the nice widescreen and regular monitors over and over we just ordered a black 20" Samsung LCD for $700.00. There are many nice brands to choose from and maybe next time we will get a widescreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priapus Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 700 for a 20"? I paid just under $300 for my viewsonic 19" widescreen lcd, 8ms gaming monitor... www.newegg.com check it out before you buy anything, hell, even if you need it NOW they'll overnight it Edit: heh didn't realize previous was original poster still good info for anyone else looking though, or if you take it back you might be able to step up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 New Egg is now permanently in my favorites.....[] $150.00 too much this time is ok but next time for the big dollar TV I'll be asking here before I pull the trigger. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 []......[]......[] These LCD monitors are GREAT! Lot's of color and sharp clear pictures on this new 20" LCD compared to the old CRT. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoTLink Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Just put in last week an Apple (for pc) SHhhhhh can't let them know you're a Mac User!!!!... you don't want them to find out!!! Apple Cinema screens are pretty mediocre from a technical standpoint.Their contrast ratio is average, color is off, response time is horrible (26ms) and there is no OSD. That's a pretty big design flaw. A comercial monitor that can't be calibrated easily because you can't get a numerical value for your brightness, contrast, color settings, ect. Also have to say the power/dvi/usb/firewire cable is the worst idea ever. Apple's 30" LCD is the 2nd nicest LCD out there aside from IBM's really high density 22"er... their 23"er has a higher pixel density [and better looks] than Dell's 24"er, and well, the 20"er.. is a 20"er.. no comment there. I have no idea where you get the 26ms quote. The 20"er uses the exact same 16ms LCD panel. I'd expect the highest on a current apple LCD to be no more than 20ms. I don't know what you get on about the OSD -- several manufacturers have done without it, and I don't see what the big deal is since the scale varies anyway. It's a freaking DVI screen -- it doesn't need an OSD! Other LCDs on the market either have it due to previous designs or that they have vga/composite inputs.. stuff that macs haven't used in a while (it's been DVI here since like 2001).. The 30"er uses Dual-Link DVI, which is a hell of a lot more standards compliant than IBM's funky DVI combination they use to drive the 22"er they make. It needs no fans (of course), shoot none of the current cinema displays even have vents. The power adaptor was made external to eliminate bulk and to keep the enclosure cooler, not to mention the lack of vga/svideo (the DAC required and such).. and whatever else.. it all came downto making them as sleek as possible. They use DVI, not ADC [which is USB+DVI+power], and while the current ones do use a cable that combines them until it gets to the end, that's certainly better than 4 cables going all the way from your screen to your computer. Just buy a 4:3 lcd and save ur pennies for a widescreen when they become better and incorperate Intel DRM. YES! And be told what you can and can't watch with the protected video. Way to go. To me a monitor is a monitor, not a Digital Rights Management device. Intel can take their DRM and shove it. ........ *long pause* So, you just had a "mac zealot" (hey, I just responded to a somewhat anti apple post, I must be) tell you why I disagree with you. Now, what would I recommend for an LCD? If you're cheap: Dell 2005FPW or 2405FPW ($399-899) If you want to splurge for something really nice Apple 20" or 23" ($799-1499) The price is tough to justify, but hey, so is the price difference between Logitech Z5500s and Klipsch 5.1 Ultras, no? In the same argument, you get a FREE BUILT IN DECODER!!!one!!! with the logitechs and it has a much bigger control pad with flashier buttons!!!one!! Not a fun argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 The Dell may have a good price and be satisfactory for general computer use, but it ghosts like the dickens when watching DVDs! Just make sure you check it (and ANY unit, not just the Dell!!) out in all its intended uses and make an informed decision before buying one! And while they may provide you with a general guide, do not rely solely on the reviews! Make the extra effort and make sure you get what you need and want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 What is this "ghosting" everybody keeps mentioning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Unless you are watching DVD's with regularity or spend your time in other video related work, there is no particular need to use a widescreen monitor for your computer. Apple/Mac's are graphics and video oriented due to the chipset they use, so that's where this comes from... for an IBM clone, forget it! DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD1032 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Anyone got recommendations for a good 17" LCD? I'm coming from a 17" CRT which is starting to show its age. General use is just suring the internet, typing, etc, but I do play graphics-intensive games with motion like America's Army, URU: Agea Beyond MYST, and even a little Warcraft III and Starcraft. I also watch a DVD on occasion. So basically, I want nice, rich colors, as little motion blur as possible, and I want it to be nice and sharp. I don't want to see the individual pixels, nor do I want it to be blurry. So I was looking at the Dell 17". Anyone have any experience with these? They actually sell three monitors, one of them looks rebranded, and then there are two higher models. I was looking at the middle one since it says it has 16 ms response time instead of the 25 that the higher one has. Then again, the higher-end one's contrast ratio is 1000:1 instead of the lower-end's 500:1. I really don't exactly know how that affect the monitors, so hopefully you guys can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 when the image tends to linger. Kinda like a shadow of the image prior. It tends to be annoying in fast action sequences in movies and games. The faster the refresh the less likely of ghosting. CRT and Plasma do not have ghosting though some lcds do. Usually anything from 16 ms and less is not going to ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 when the image tends to linger. Kinda like a shadow of the image prior. It tends to be annoying in fast action sequences in movies and games. The faster the refresh the less likely of ghosting. CRT and Plasma do not have ghosting though some lcds do. Usually anything from 16 ms and less is not going to ghost. Jay, Thanks for the ghosting explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmtnbikr Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I use a Sony SDMHS75PS and am pretty happy with it. 1280 x 1024 res with a decent response time. It sure beats the old CRT display to pieces, and in fact was the motivation for me to move to a 20" LCD to replace a bulky 20" CRT in the bedroom. Here are the specs: LCD PANEL SCREEN SIZE : 17" LCD Panel Screen Size LCD MONITOR PANEL : Resolution: 1280 x 1024 BRIGHTNESS : 420 cd/m2 ANSI Lumens CONTRAST RATIO (Max) : 600:1 VIEWING ANGLE : 160 degrees RESPONSE RATE : 8ms MAXIMUM ANALOGUE INPUT : 1280 x 1024 (SXGA) @ 75Hz INTERFACES : PC Input: 1 x 15 pin D-sub, DVI Input: 1 x DVI-D NATIVE ASPECT RATIO : 5:4 POWER INPUT : 100-120/220-240V AC, 50/60 Hz POWER CONSUMPTION : 45W COLOR : Silver COLOR TEMP PRESETS : 6500 Kelvin, 9300 Kelvin sRGV plus user adjustable VESA MOUNTING CAPACITY : 75mm pitch TILT RANGE : + or -20 degrees DIMENSION (WxHxDmm) : 388 x 382.5 x 139.2mm WEIGHT : 5.0kg Eco Mode Auto Power Save Kensington Lock International Energy Star Compliant Light Sensor Easily Adjustable Tilt Control One Button Touch Backlight Adjustment Stylish Modern Design Clear Bright Screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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