DrWho Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 shaking the whole house...lol With some more testing... would you believe it's not the IB, but mostly the Khorns? Their corners are braced, sheathed both sides in oriented strand board, glued, screwed, and mostly attached to the floor. I think the weak point lies in their connection to the joists at the top. I tried to minimize those connections during construction (trying to create a weak link) but a link all the same. I know I'm asking for a lot... but got to aim high. So if you pull the khorns out of the corner the problem goes away? (ignoring their need to be sealed). And is it at a broad range of frequencies or just a select few? Sounds to me like a resonation problem - kinda like Picky's hilarious story about Tesla. Your "weak link" approach would work to lower the resonate frequency of the system - so perhaps insane fastening might be in order to try and move the resonation out of the passband of the khorn? Another thing you might consider would be to add some side panels to the khorn like on the 60th anniversary version. They definetly vibrate way less than the older models so maybe that alone will be enough. But if it's not, then you have the option of pulling them away from the wall half an inch and not affecting their performance whatsoever. And how do you have the crossover to the subwoofer configured? Are the khorns running full range? If you have the subs dialed to fill in just below their cutoff then you won't be getting the full LFE signal coming out of the subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 So if you pull the khorns out of the corner the problem goes away? (ignoring their need to be sealed). And is it at a broad range of frequencies or just a select few? Pulling them away does seem to reduce it further... I would suspect it's frequency dependant... but it's a good question that would require more experimenting. Note that at those volumes, you do feel the compression in your body as well... so I'm also looking at possibly a combination of factors including air born resonances. Need to get a PC down there... But if it's not, then you have the option of pulling them away from the wall half an inch and not affecting their performance whatsoever. That would depend if it's the cabinet vibrations which are being transmitted to the wall (and they are vibrating on their own) or if it's the sound wave at the horn mouth. BTW... luckily you didn't post that in the 2 channel flame forum... And how do you have the crossover to the subwoofer configured? Are the khorns running full range? It's a very old processor which only has a fixed 80Hz THX crossover... so the sub is running LFE and the mains are running full range AFAIK. Playing with that may help even further. I'd like to upgrade actually to one that has better LFE management and some HD video switching. Not sure if I should get an older "higher end" model or a new cheaper unit like the Outlaw... but that's an entirely different subject... ROb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 My comment about pulling it out 1/2" was assuming you attached the rear panel deflector thing like on the newer khorns...with it they say you can pull the speakers as far as 6" from the wall and not have any huge side-effects. The major importance of that seal is to get those "small" 300Hz waves to come out correctly. As far as receiver...I'd recommend an older higher end model over a newer cheaper unit. Apparently recievers for the same price point as a couple years ago have gone way down in quality as they pack way more features into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Thought I'd post a couple of update pictures finally decided to demolish the stair, reframe, and replace the steps. This was the original stair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Another shot after i began demolition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Everything tore out, and measuring up the steps (the original steps were not all identical in height, and i bugged the crap out of me)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 new steps going in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Steps stained, varnished and painted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernXposure Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Hi Rob, Terry from DDO here. Super interesting project!!! Getting started myself soon as I just purchased 83's rc 64 rs 62. I will be moving to Dorval South newxt year and am pretty sure I will be running into the same problems as you are experiencing with the older home situation. I would love to check out the progress and get a chance to meet a fellow local Klipsch fan. Keep in touch Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkp Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Great looking room, Rob!! Very nice workmanship. The colors look great. My wife wants to know what's up with those feet. lol I'm sure there's a story there somewhere... Anyway, the room looks great. Congrats and enjoy! -David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Thanks guys…. I'll try and get some updated "overall" pics up this weekend as most of the furniture is in now (chaise lounge arrived this past weekend... []) I'm now looking at refinishing the main khorns, fireplace, and building a mobile furniture unit to house the rear effect Heresy's. The feet?... well... they are actually part of a bigger contemporary art installation consisting of a dozen or so plaster casts of "feet in motion" that was produced by a good friend of mine. Unfortunately the whole work takes up too much space... and hence to two lonely feet. I find horizontal sculptures so much harder to place than vertically oriented ones... Quick eye... ROb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 You could always put the feet on the ceiling or a wall, no? Sounds cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkp Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Heck, hang a curtain on the wall, paint 'em flesh color and let the toes peek out. I'd bet you'd get some pretty good laughs out of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picky Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Rob: Very nice handiwork! I need to do ours next summer and I am not looking forward to it as their are about 10 steps. I love the finished wood of your steps. They look very classy. In comparison, ours can't be as nicely displayed as yours because the are in a stairwell that is not open to the sides, nor can it be made that way without compromising the wall of our office. We currenly have thin, commercial-grade carpet on the steps to keep them quiet. Was carpet ever a consideration for yours? What made you decide to go with finished wood? Maybe I should, too? Thanks for sharing the photos with us. -Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 Hey Glenn... thanks... a coupleof reasons actually... 1) I love to look and feel of wood floors 2) Matches my whole home 3) Wood is more durable 4) Easier to maintain esp with the snow which may be dragged in 5) Resale value... buyers here prefer hardwood 6) I could easily do it myself ... 7) If someone REALLY wants carpet, they can put a runner... So I figured why not... material wise (13 steps) the costisn't significantly more... especially compare to the home's value. Once the varnish ages a little, it'll be aperfect match to the upstairs floors. Obviously#1 had a lot to do with it.... so it may, or may not be everyones choice... ROb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 A couple of newer pics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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formica Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 and one last one for now.... I haven't taken any with the new Chaise Longue... yet... but i've been busy cutting wood to convert my "D" type mains to something nicer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkp Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Rob-that room looks really sweet! Thanks for the new pics. I don't recall the size of your screen, what is it? -David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 thanks... and the screen is in the 1:2.35 format so it measures about 94" x 40" (give or take an inch) which translates to the 102" range i believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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