Bob_Collins Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 OK, here is my current shortlist of subwoofers that I am considering purchasing. Paradigm Servo 15 v.2 Revel B15a Velodyne DD-15 Which one of the above would be the best choice in terms of quality, low extension (must dig lower than 20 Hz. and be audible). The main speakers and surrounds are Klipsch RF-7s, RC-7 is the center channel, and Klipsch Fortes are the rear surrounds in a 7 channel config. I will be listening to both music and home theater, but mostly movies in home theater mode. I want QUALITY, DEEP, LOW bass, not looking for maximum output, hence my short list above. If additional output were needed, I would be looking at adding a second matching sub, but at least initially there will only be one. One sub to rule them all is what I am after. ;-) Thanks in advance! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Bob thats a great short list but for the money the klipsch sub-12 is a 650 watt downward thrust sub and is a better choice to the speaks you already have. It retails for about 499 to 525 you can also look on e-bay. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennyE Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 hmm i dont think the sub-12 has quite enough extension to play below 20hz......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 If you want/need the EQ, then the Velodyne would be my choice. TheEAR has the other two subs, if memory serves. For looks the Para, for sound the Revel. All three subs will get the job done. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 B15 or for that price, Twin KW-120's and the KA-1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomer9911 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 As a Vel owner....Velodyne.... The Paradigm is also nice , but can't say much about the Revel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Collins Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yeah, I don't think the sub-12 would dig near as deep as I want, especially since the RF-7's are very capable of digging fairly deep on their own. I know that TheEar has (or had) a Servo 15, a Velodyne HGS-18, and the Revel B-15, and previously has stated that the Revel is his favorite sub overall, so I'd like to get him to chime in with his recommendation on my short list in the original message that kicked off the thread (not the old antiquated versions he has (just kidding!) ;-) I'd also like to ask TheEar to respond as to why the Revel is his overall favorite, is it for its ability to dig deep, its musicality or accuracy, or the ability to match it with virtually any speaker combo due to the EQ it has? Ear, again I was only teasing about you having older models. I have great respect for your opinion on this subject, and hope my comment above was taken in the joking manner in which it was meant. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 What... no other brand fanboys jumping in here? All kidding aside, you would do well with several models. http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_4/subwoofers-12-2001.html Here is a test report that you might find useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamer Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Bob, Give a serious look! I have 2x18 passives with the same control/integrator...WOW Greg http://cgi.ebay.com/Bag-End-Infrasub-18-Powered-Subwoofer-New-Condition_W0QQitemZ7375098339QQcategoryZ47095QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Newbs,pretenders and would be ME's move over,stop posting opinions about subs you never had at home,let a pro do the talking. [] ...[:#] ...joking. [] Lets disect these three subwoofers first. Paradigm Servo 15 Ver.2 Massive built sub using Paradigm's 1250W RMS amp powering a overbuilt 15 woofer capable over 2" of piston travel.Servo control,very low distortion among the best in any price range,very potent down to 20Hz.For the price this si the best buy of the three,you get the most SPL and quality for your dollar.A great compromise HT and music sub Revel B15 Well built sub using Revel's 1000W RMS amp and has a very welcome parametric EQ to make a perfect match with justa bout any speakers.The woofer has an even longer travel than the Paradigm sub above! Higher SPL(I am talking 3-4SPL extra down low)but this sub uses no servo control and will not be as musical as the Servo above.Betst HT sub of the bunch,hellacious 31.5Hz output and great 20Hz output.Below 20 it drops like a stone. Velodyne DD15 The high tech king of the hill,using a 1250W RMS amp powering a tandem push pull voice coil 15" woofer,has about 1.25 to 1.5" of linear travel.On top of having a push pull motor system and being servo controlled it uses an advanced AUTO EQ and has a composite out to see the results on screen! With this one you find the right spot,adjust the phase let the auto setup do its thing and voila.Most musical and cleanest sub of the three.Least output(plenty for most rooms),will go deep below 25Hz its not a powerhouse.Musical champ,a refined tool. So here you have it,I could write much more on any of these but I hope this quick ocerview will help. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 curious why at least the pb12-ultra/2 was neglected... perhaps size is an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Collins Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 Nope, size is not an issue. I just want to stick to subs that I can walk into a dealer, look at, hear, take home, and be able to return without the hassle of having to deal with a shipper. Also, I tend to prefer the idea of a sealed subwoofer rather than ported or with a passive radiator. Ear, elsewhere you mentioned that the Revel B15 was your personal favorite subwoofer, can you tell me why? Also, which of the 3 on my short list do you think will dig deepest (play the lowest notes (below 20 Hz.), audibly)? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 At work now...busy as hell.Post later,when at home [] The Paradigm Servo 15 V2 will dig deepest,as tested by TheEAR.By a very minute margin,the Revel B15 uses a parametric EQ superb match with any speakers,this is why it is my fave sub(below 3 grand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotechsans Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 A question for you Ear... A few months ago I helped my sister pick speakers for her own home theater. After testing several brands in several places everywhere (BB, CC, Frys, GoodGuys) she settled on the reference bookshelf speakers and the RW10 sub. Now, that trip made me realize how slow/muddy my "take 5" energy 12" sub is compared to the klipsch subs. I've updated my speakers to klipsch RF15/RC25s in front, but I'm now planning my sub upgrade. So my question is -- can you compare and recommend one of the RSW-12, HSU VTF-3, or similar SVS or outlaw LFM-1? I get the feeling from reading your previous descriptions that the HSU is a great sub under 1k... same as SVS. But how do these compare with the RSW-12 in total? Is the RSW-12 that much better? Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Back home...[] Ok,a sub like the VTF3 and an SVS Plus series will have more deep bass(below 25Hz)output,the RSW12 has better punch and will be ideal as a music sub.As the HSU and SVS will have a slight advantage in HT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 What... no other brand fanboys jumping in here? All kidding aside, you would do well with several models. http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_4/subwoofers-12-2001.html Here is a test report that you might find useful. I dont know what the Klipsch KSW-15 is doing in there comparing to the others,LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Back home...[] Ok,a sub like the VTF3 and an SVS Plus series will have more deep bass(below 25Hz)output,the RSW12 has better punch and will be ideal as a music sub.As the HSU and SVS will have a slight advantage in HT. Ill take the water heaters by far,any 16-46+ /20-39+ or ultra would kill the rsw12 with ease,hsu is a music sub,vtf3 ,rsw is a music sub, svs is music and ht sub and tighter than all you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 The only thing the SVS subs have over the original poster's three choices is their lower price. I do not think that this fellow is looking for a bargain basement sub like the SVSs. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 The only thing the SVS subs have over the original poster's three choices is their lower price. I do not think that this fellow is looking for a bargain basement sub like the SVSs. Bill And no servo control,no auto EQ and are less musical. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Collins Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Correct. I am not looking for a bargain basement subwoofer. Right now I am thinking that the Servo 15 might be my top choice, with the Revel B15a as the second choice (although I do like the EQ options available on the Velodyne DD-15). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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