Tim_in_NC Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hey Guys, I'm looking to begin taking advantage of either the Multi Room/Zone or the A-Bus features that my H/K AVR-7300 offers and have decided to look for some Klipsch Outdoor Speakers... What's everyone's choice? Best bang for the buck? Also, any of you guys have experience with the H/K AB 1 (A-Bus controller) ... Can it get loud? Does it offer plenty of sound for outside entertainment? thanks, TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well... I've got two pairs of these, but I don't think that's what you have in mind LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_in_NC Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 Those would look sweet hanging from my deck... The nieghbors might not approve... but hey... I wouldn't mind! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I have their SA-1's outside for deck/pool area. They are plenty of speaker for outside. They made a bigger SA-2 and 3 at the time, but I can't imagine you would need them unless you had miles and miles of empty space around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_in_NC Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Thanks Hunt, So far I've narrowed it down to the SA-1's, the KHO-7's, or the HS-2's ... Even tho the SA's are probably the best out of the bunch... It will probably come down to what type of deal I can get on a good used set... If this is even possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 is there really much difference between the SA series and good old KSB's other than plugging the port so water can't get in? KSB 1.1's can be gotten for like $50 per pair on ebay. If you hung em tight under overhangs, they wouldn't get much weather anyway. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 is there really much difference between the SA series and good old KSB's other than plugging the port so water can't get in? KSB 1.1's can be gotten for like $50 per pair on ebay. If you hung em tight under overhangs, they wouldn't get much weather anyway. Michael Clue me in here, but exposed ports would have more than just water to worry about here. Every wren, wasp and other critters would plug it up in a season. On the other hand, if the ports are at least screened off then fifty bucks sounds like a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_in_NC Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 I currently have a set of KSB 1.1's and love 'em for the size and sound they give... Actually, I think the HS-2's are more of same construction as the KSB 1.1's ... I thought that the "outdoor" speakers could handle water better ... Maybe the speakers and connections were coated in some sort of water repelling substance, etc... If the only thing that's different is the Speaker Box/Casing and the closable port... I can easily come up with some silicon and other materials to make it more waterproof... Let me know guys, I'd love to get another set of KSB 1.1's for outside duty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I've got 8 pairs of KSB1.1's and love em at lower volumes. Here's what I'm going to do for my patios this next summer. I'll mount the speakers tight up under the wide (2') overhangs on my ranch style house. The chance of water blowing up under there is minimal. But just in case, I'm going to tilt the speakers back TOWARD THE HOUSE and DOWN. That way, there's almost no way weather can get to the drivers. The sound waves will bounce off the house and then spread broadly across the patios of the house. There is only like a 1" port and the metal grille is pretty impervious. For about half or less the cost of 'exterior' speakers, I think it's worth a try. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_in_NC Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Sounds like I'm gonna have to give this a try... On a side note... I'm planning on powering my "outside" speakers with the Mulit Zone Amp in my Harman Kardon AVR-7300 and then maybe later use an A-BUS ... Do you think there is any way lightening could hit one of these "outside" speakers and damage my AVR-7300 ??? OR... Do you think if water got into the speakers, the water could somehow short or damage the AVR-7300 ??? I doubt it but was curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I've got 8 pairs of KSB1.1's and love em at lower volumes. Here's what I'm going to do for my patios this next summer. I'll mount the speakers tight up under the wide (2') overhangs on my ranch style house. The chance of water blowing up under there is minimal. But just in case, I'm going to tilt the speakers back TOWARD THE HOUSE and DOWN. That way, there's almost no way weather can get to the drivers. The sound waves will bounce off the house and then spread broadly across the patios of the house. There is only like a 1" port and the metal grille is pretty impervious. For about half or less the cost of 'exterior' speakers, I think it's worth a try. Michael Michael, to repeat myself, is the port exposed? As I said, wrens would set up a nest and be in heaven (at least until max spl). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwatkins Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 My 2 cents - I have the SA2 and I am darn pleased. They sit inside a screened porch on the open gable end and broadcast out to the yard/pool. The porch does something unexpected and pleasing - the LF is very full and rich. It is much richer than when it was at the corner eaves. Without any real data, it must be something regarding the reinforcement from the volume of the big box formed by the porch. Not sure why, but it is very pleasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffgeorge Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I have had the HS-2's for about three seasons now and think they are a wonderful outdoor speaker. They can play plenty loud on my 14' X 18' deck. They image well and even have decent bass for outdoors. I have powered them with anywhere from a 40 W receiver to a 100 W amp and have had no issues. I think your HK will power them nicely. Besides... you can't beat the price.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I've got 8 pairs of KSB1.1's and love em at lower volumes. Here's what I'm going to do for my patios this next summer. I'll mount the speakers tight up under the wide (2') overhangs on my ranch style house. The chance of water blowing up under there is minimal. But just in case, I'm going to tilt the speakers back TOWARD THE HOUSE and DOWN. That way, there's almost no way weather can get to the drivers. The sound waves will bounce off the house and then spread broadly across the patios of the house. There is only like a 1" port and the metal grille is pretty impervious. For about half or less the cost of 'exterior' speakers, I think it's worth a try. Michael Michael, to repeat myself, is the port exposed? As I said, wrens would set up a nest and be in heaven (at least until max spl). It's a teensy tiny port covered by perforated metal grille. The wrens would have to smaller than 1/16" to get in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_in_NC Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 I'm planning on powering my "outside" speakers with the Mulit Zone Amp in my Harman Kardon AVR-7300 and then maybe later use an A-BUS ... Do you think there is any way lightening could hit one of these "outside" speakers and damage my AVR-7300 ??? OR... Do you think if water got into the speakers, the water could somehow short or damage the AVR-7300 ??? So what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 If I accidentally short the speaker wires going to my Yamaha RXV2400, it shuts down immediately. Must be some self-protection circuit. Don't know about lightening strikes. Maybe there's some electronic doo-dad you could put on the speaker lines to blow in that case. What's the chance that your house is going to be hit by lightening? WOuldn't the Aluminum guttering take the hit first? M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwatkins Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 The best solution if you are concerned about lightning strikes would be a pure grounding of the speaker system - this is usually quite difficult without the speaker being line powered. It is something that is somewhat common in outdoor stadiums, but may not be as easy with your setup. I agree with Coulter - use something else as a lightning rod. Even with good grounding, the electrical surge from a lightning strike is tremendous and any in line attempt to bleed that surge to ground will only have a percentage of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Another forum member (Tillmbil) was kind enough to sell me a pair of SA-2s for my back patio for a great price. THEY ROCK! If you can find those or the SA-3s, BUY THEM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_in_NC Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Thanks Guys... So I'll probably be ok to just hook 'em up and roll with it... Now to find some cheap KSB 1.1's... Hmmm, wonder if I know anyone with about 8 sets!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 FYI- I picked up my SA-1's for $99 brand new for the pair, at Ovation in INdy. They run deals on discontinued items every once in a while. Might be worth checking with them. As someone else mentioned, the bass response is tremendous on these things. I can't imagine what the SA-2 or 3's would sound like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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