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Who,

With the PDF you posted you confirmed the Esotar is a very high power handling tweeter plus the Esotar is an elite tweeter.

PWK said something along the lines of "bragging about power handling is

like bragging that your car burns more gas" [:)] Nevertheless,150W continuous into a

92dB driver is nothing to write home about.

Like I've said at the levels the Esotar starts

to fail your ears will be long tired and you will be losing your

hearing.So its a moot point,who listens at home at insane levels?

NOBODY,any living being will suffer more than enjoy the sound past a

certain SPL. And where most people will listen to music(even very

LOUD)the Esotar is simply a top three tweeter world wide(the other two

are the Accuton inverted diamond tweeter and the Scan Speak Revelator

).

The tweeter just like any other direct radiator suffers early from

amplitude compression, but surprisingly the pdf shows a very linear

frequency response at different SPL's (despite the power

compression)...you usually see a +6dB rise starting at about an octave

above the Fs...and that's absolutely the last thing you wanna have in

any driver. They must have done some fancy stuff with the

suspension...you'll notice the system is mostly overdamped above 10kHz

too countered by a few frequencies with extra resonance.

I don't think it's possible to claim any single driver is the best in

the world, or heck any single piece of equipment for that

matter...there are simply too many other variables involved and I

guarantee that in some way compromises were made. And there also has

gotta be a horn loaded tweeter out there that sounds better too...and

if it doesn't exist, then I'll just go build one myself just to make a

point [;)]

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I dare you to build a better tweeter,a better sounding tweeter. The secret of the Esotar as you can see is its linearity with changing SPL. Yes you design a better one and and one that measures and sounds better and I will buy a pair.

Until then,good luck.You will need it [:D]

And while at it try building a better dome midrange than Dynaudio Esotar midrange. [;)]

All in good spirit

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IEC is music power input to the crossover.

Long term power of more than 20W will cause it to melt into slag.

Virtually any good ferro-fluid dome tweeter will handle 1KW on HF tone bursts. Audio Magazine did such tests on a regular bassis. The PSB Stratus Gold had a Vifa dome and had no problems with 1KW tone-bursts.

Dynaudio is OK, I bought quite a few when they were reasonable priced.

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So you needs hears of R&D just to best a little Dynaudio tweeter!

No, it'll just be a few years before I have enough money to begin

building drivers on my own. It costs like $10k just to get the molds

made...startup costs are insane. I would just call it "R&D" because

I'm bound to be learning more in the meantime (so the better tweeter

I'd build now probably wouldn't be as good as the one I'd build later).

Building better isn't that hard...but building better AND cheaper is.

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ok what exactly does ferrofluid do etc etc. Pictures and links as per appropriate

Think of it as water cooling for a tweeter...the "ferro" part of the

word refers to the fact that the fluid conducts magnetism - thus

keeping the fluid in the gap between the magnet and the pole piece. Or

at least that's what I've been led to believe...I wouldn't consider

myself a qualified source. You tried googling it?

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ok what exactly does ferrofluid do etc etc. Pictures and links as per appropriate

Think of it as water cooling for a tweeter...the "ferro" part of the

word refers to the fact that the fluid conducts magnetism - thus

keeping the fluid in the gap between the magnet and the pole piece. Or

at least that's what I've been led to believe...I wouldn't consider

myself a qualified source. You tried googling it?

no you usually have a million different better websites then what google provides.....Guess i overestimated you [;)]

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ok what exactly does ferrofluid do etc etc. Pictures and links as per appropriate

Think of it as water cooling for a tweeter...the "ferro" part of the

word refers to the fact that the fluid conducts magnetism - thus

keeping the fluid in the gap between the magnet and the pole piece. Or

at least that's what I've been led to believe...I wouldn't consider

myself a qualified source. You tried googling it?

And YOU want to design a tweeter that will surpass the Esotar! [:P] Yes the ferrofluid is there to help transfer the heat while not restricting the magnetic field. Most cheapo tweeters that are "ferrofluid" cooled as they say probably use Crisco oil. [;)]

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you wanted a website:

http://www.ferrotec.com/usa/ferrofluid_technology_overview.htm

And here's a pic:

speakerfunda2.gif

(from http://www.miragespeakers.com/spk_fund.shtml)

Btw, just a minor correction...I meant to say the ferrofluid sat inside

the VC (ie, between the VC and the pole piece). When replacing the

diaphgragm on a tweeter you wanna be careful not to spill it everywhere

[;)]

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