damonrpayne Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 OK another fun poll. Both HD-DVD and BluRay have had significant delay in coming to market. I want 1080p on disc even if I don't yet have a display that can do it. What format do you think is going to be around 2 years from now and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I voted Blue Ray. It seems to have significantly more industry support than HD DVD. Personally, I can't afford to pick the losing format (unless uni players appear), so I plan to let you high-rolling, bleeding-edge early adopters sort this mess out. Call me when the war is over. I'll be in my music room listening to my huge seven-disc DVD-Audio colection.[:$] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Wow, everyone has voted BluRay so far. I can't believe only 6 people in home theater care about this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el jopez Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 HD-DVD. Why? According to Tech sites and the like, many people within Hollywood are becoming increasingly frustrated with Sony and their failure to deliver a decent product. So far HD-DVD has a working model, that is a console that can play HD discs as well as cd's and DVD's and is quite affordable for being "next gen". Blue-Ray on the other hand so far is in crisis. One of the latest beta models cost several grand, and as well was unable to play even a music cd. As well, remember ther PSP? Ya, that small portable player that plays games, movies, music, interent etc.. well Sony promised that it could beat out iPod and other portable players due to brand recognition, and that they should release movies on its propriety disc, a UMD as well as DVD. As of last month, major studios have discontinued support for the UMD format in response to dismal sales. Sony has a long history of making huge claims and over hyping the actual performance and value of their goods. I for one will not buy any player for atleast a year. Jopez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 According to Tech sites and the like, many people within Hollywood are becoming increasingly frustrated with Sony and their failure to deliver a decent product. With their DRM goofs... many consumers are also becoming frustrated with them. I think inexpensive multiplayers will be the savior for both formats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickoegle Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 And if Blue-Ray is the way to go, why not just purchase the PS3, if it can truely play Blue-Ray discs, at 600-750 for a game system that can do the same thing, its well worth it. But it looks that if you purchase a Blue-Ray DVD player though sony: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=hav_bluraydiscsub&Dept=tvvideo 1000$. WOW! Pay 250-400 less and get a BlueRay player that also plays games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shmoe Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 looking at it from a less technical view, HD-DVD is a little more in laymans (sp?) terms than BluRay.....right? I mean people already know that HD stands for High Definition, but I can see alot of people new to it all scratching their heads wondering what the hell is BluRay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Having seen neither demonstrated, I won't vote. I will say that I have been disappointed in Sony products due to quality and user-friendly (not) issues in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el jopez Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 With their DRM goofs... many consumers are also becoming frustrated with them. I think inexpensive multiplayers will be the savior for both formats. Can someone say Rootkit? And if Blue-Ray is the way to go, why not just purchase the PS3, if it can truely play Blue-Ray discs, at 600-750 for a game system that can do the same thing, its well worth it. But it looks that if you purchase a Blue-Ray DVD player though sony: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start?CategoryName=hav_bluraydiscsub&Dept=tvvideo 1000$. WOW! Pay 250-400 less and get a BlueRay player that also plays games. I dont think there is even a guarantee on a cheaper system that does more than just plays a movie. In my opinion, Sony bit off more than they could chew in the time they have alloted themselves. Blue-Ray and the Cell micro processor could be doomed if they continue to lose support from developers, studios and ultimatley us, the consumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 If Sony does not screw up the PS3, then content providers will see that as 1,000,000 BluRay players per month (initial production capacity at launch) and I believe it will win the format war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 So the fate of the next HT format rests with a game playing machine? (Smithers, release the hounds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 You should have added the following formats: 1...EVD---Chinese codecs on standard DVD discs 2...FVD---Taiwan using Microsoft HD -WMV codec on standard discs and also dual layer and tripple layer standard discs/ (30 minutes 4.7, 1hr dual layer) *** 3...DVM---Indian, Russian codecs on standard DVD discs. (40 gig disc maybe) 4...HVT---Holographic discs 2007 300 gigs 5...HVX---Holographic discs 2007 1000 gigs. 6...M2T transfer stream files on standard DVD discs (30 minutes 4.7, 1hr dual layer) *** 7...HD-WMV files on standard DVD discs. (30 minutes 4.7, 1hr dual layer) *** *** available now with Avelink and JVC SR-DVD 100U. Bluray the only one with 1080P. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor.Ham.Slap Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I think there won't be only one single format to dominate. LG and a few other companies have already jumped ship and said they will make players that do both formats. There is also a silicon chip maker who already has developed a chip that has codecs for both. IMO, both will survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye_Nut Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 My 2 cents..... I wouldnt be surprised of HD-DVD wipes the floor with BlueRay. The 'masses' will decide the winner in this battle, and these issues will determine the winner........ 1. Player price 2. Movie title availability Did you notice that quality or technical superiority isnt mentioned? I realize that enthusists who follow and know the technical ins & outs are pulling for BR, but I have a feeling that they are going to get their @sses kicked to kingdom come in this approaching war. As enthusists, we only make up a small percentage of the market, and the masses who flood the big box chains like BB & CC will decide the outcome. My money is on HD-DVD, but I'm not buying until I can buy any DVD new release in one format or the other. I dont want to own a player if only a token percentage of new releases are available in that format. When the day comes that I dont have to pay attention to which studio made any given film to see which format it's in, I'll buy a player that very same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Bluray the only one with 1080P. JJK HD-DVD has the ability to do 1080p according to my reading, but the first few players will not have this feature. I'm not sure if 1080p is going to be a huge factor or not, but I was at a local AV store this weekend and was surprised how many TVs I saw that were claiming 1080p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I will probably end up with both Bluray and HD-DVD players as my editing software is Sony Vegas & DVD-A and I doubt they will cut it for HD-DVD. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxas guy Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I voted Blue Ray. It seems to have significantly more industry support than HD DVD. Personally, I can't afford to pick the losing format (unless uni players appear), so I plan to let you high-rolling, bleeding-edge early adopters sort this mess out. Call me when the war is over. I'll be in my music room listening to my huge seven-disc DVD-Audio colection.[:$] ^ I'm right there with ya. Oh, and I'll be listening to my massive eight disc SACD collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pako Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I voted Blue Ray. It seems to have significantly more industry support than HD DVD. Personally, I can't afford to pick the losing format (unless uni players appear), so I plan to let you high-rolling, bleeding-edge early adopters sort this mess out. Call me when the war is over. I'll be in my music room listening to my huge seven-disc DVD-Audio colection.[:$] LOL Seven-disc DVD-A collection? You got me beat by 3 discs...... LOL Maybe you can call me when after they call you. I voted Blue Ray however just because of Sony's backing and choice of technology with the PS3 soon to be released. That's good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I didn't vote because I ain't rushing out to buy either one of them. It's ridiculous that these companies expect us to pick. Or better yet, buy two $1000 players. F Them. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to watch the new formats, I'd usually be the first in line, but I'm tired of these huge corporations screwing the little guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlton Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I think the winner will be the format that the porn []industry supports. That is apparently what swung the VHS vs. Beta war to VHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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