Some questions

[msone]

Hi

I wonder if

you guys have some time to help a noob out with some questions. I hope I am

posting this is the right section.

I just got

a pair of RF-82s and an RC-62. I am using an Onkyo 803 receiver and I used the

setup Mic that comes with the receiver. I am concerned that it did not set

things up right but I have no clue what right and wrong is. As of right now

this is how it is set up.

Sub---- yes

Fronts -----

200 Hz

Center---- 100

Hz

Surround -----

100 Hz

Surrback-----

N/A I do not have these hooked up yet

LPF of LFE

--- 80 Hz

Now I am

not sure what all that stuff above is or means. Is it right? If not what should

it be?

Here are

more details on what I have

Receiver is

Onkyo 803

Fronts are

RF-82

Center is

RC-62

Subwoofer

is a 5 or so year old Sony 12 not sure of the model number.

Surrounds

are Quintet II will be upgraded soon

Surround back will be Quintet II when I get the time

to add them also going to be upgraded soon.

Again sorry for being a noob I just want things to be set

right.

[Guest " "]

Yes I know about the MIC.

Do you have small front, center, and surround speakers? if the answer is yes, The results maybe the best config based on the automated setup proceedure...if you want to go the automated route.

If you have large front, center, surround speakers....I would review the config.

In terms of what the config means....from an audio perspective...you are going to have a hole between 80HZ and 200HZ on the fronts (could there be a possibility that the fronts and rears are reversed?)

The hole between the center and surrounds at 80hz-100hz is less of a problem.

note - also check to see if the fronts (one or both) or the subwoofer is wired correctly (positive/negative)

[msone]

Yes I know about the MIC.

Do you have small front, center, and surround speakers? if the

answer is yes, The results maybe the best config based on the

automated setup proceedure...if you want to go the automated route.

If you have large front, center, surround speakers....I would review the config.

In terms of what the config means....from an audio perspective...you

are going to have a hole between 80HZ and 200HZ on the fronts (could

there be a possibility that the fronts and rears are reversed?)

The hole between the center and surrounds at 80hz-100hz is less of a problem.

note - also check to see if the fronts (one or both) or the subwoofer is wired correctly (positive/negative)

Im not sure what you mean by small fronts or large fronts

and so on. Are you asking me if I have them set to large or small? If this is

so the only place I can do this is on my DVD player and I think they are all

set to large.

My fronts are hooked up to my front CH as I can hear music

on them fine when playing a cd. I will have to check to make sure they are wired

correct IE. to and + to +.

However I am not sure if i have the speaker wire connected

to the right post on the speaker box because I have 2 sets for bi wire. Right

now they are in the bottom set of posts because I do not have them as bi wire.

Is this correct?

My sub is just one wire from my receiver to the

sub.

I take it that having a hole from 80hz to 200 hz is not good

and that things are set up wrong? Again sorry for having no clue

[Guest " "]

question was if your speakers are small (they have small 3" - 4" woofers), medium (6" - 8" woofers), or large (10" - 15" woofers), medium or large.

if you have small speakers...the information you provided could be expected.

if you have medium or large speakers, the information you provided needs investigation. large speakers should not be cut off at 200hz.

If you have large speakers ......There is some flexabilty...there may be options to change the settings on the sony sub woofer (some wooders have both a frequency cut off selection and a selector that determines the level output, and some have a selector for the octave spread (how wide to cover). There may also be settings on the reciever to change the cutoff to the LF channel (large or small speaker setting, or actual numbers 80HZ, 120HZ, 140HZ, etc).

If you have small speakers, I would leave it...rely on the MIC and setup proceedure.

[msone]

My front

Specs

Specifications

FREQUENCY

RESPONSE:

33Hz-23kHz +/-3dB

POWER

HANDLING:

150W RMS / 600WPeak

SENSITIVITY:

98dB @ 2.83V / 1m

NOMINAL

IMPEDANCE:

8 ohms compatible

HIGH

FREQUENCY DRIVERS:

1" (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm

compression driver mated to 90x60 square Tractrix® Horn

HIGH

FREQ CROSSOVER:

2000Hz

LOW

FREQUENCY DRIVERS:

Dual 8" (20.3cm) Cerametallic

cone woofers

ENCLOSURE

TYPE:

Bass-reflex via dual rear-firing ports

HEIGHT:

43.6" (110.7cm) (w/feet)

WIDTH:

9.5" (24.1cm)

DEPTH:

16.25" (41.3cm)

WEIGHT:

66lbs (30kg)

Center specs

Specifications

FREQUENCY

RESPONSE:

57Hz-23kHz +/-3dB

POWER

HANDLING:

150W RMS / 600WPeak

SENSITIVITY:

98dB @ 2.83V / 1m

NOMINAL

IMPEDANCE:

8 ohms compatible

HIGH

FREQUENCY DRIVERS:

1" (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm

compression driver mated to 90x60 square Tractrix® Horn

HIGH

FREQ CROSSOVER:

1150Hz, 1650Hz

LOW

FREQUENCY DRIVERS:

Dual 6.5" (16.5cm)

Cerametallic cone woofers

ENCLOSURE

TYPE:

Bass-reflex via dual front-firing

ports

HEIGHT:

8" (20.3cm)

WIDTH:

23.5" (59.7cm)

DEPTH:

12.5" (31.8cm)

MOUNTING:

Uptilt and Downtilt feet

WEIGHT:

32lbs (14.5kg)

Surrounds specs

FREQUENCY RESPONSE:

100Hz-20kHz±3dB POWER HANDLING:

50 w (100 w peak) SENSITIVITY:

90dB @ 1watt/1meter NOMINAL IMPEDANCE:

8 ohms CROSSOVER

FREQUENCY:

4900Hz TWEETER:

K-104-KV 0.75" (1.91cm) Polymer

dome compression driver HIGH

FREQUENCY HORN:

90°x40° Tractrix® Horn WOOFER:

K-1068-KV 3.5" (8.9cm) Poly cone

ENCLOSURE MATERIAL:

Stone Mineral Compound ENCLOSURE TYPE:

Bass reflex via rear-mounted port

DIMENSIONS:

7.5" (19.05cm) x 4.25"

(10.8cm) x 6.375" (16.19cm)

Now as for

the Sony sub I do have 2 knobs on it but im not 100% sure what they are I know

one makes it louder and I have them both half way. I will check when I get home

from work.

As for me

being able to change the setting on my receiver I can here are what I can

choose. Full band, 40 Hz, 60 Hz, 70 Hz, 80 Hz (thx), 90 Hz, 100 Hz, 120hhz, 150

Hz, 200 Hz

thank you for taking the time to help me.

[msone]

here are the options on my sony sub

lvl min - max

cut off freq 50hz-170hz

phase normal or reverse

[wuzzzer]

If you are able to manually change the low crossover point for your front main speakers, set them to 80hz and set your sub to the same level. Your RF-82s can easily play lower than 80hz, but this way the subwoofer will be handling the lowest bass.

[msone]

If you are able to manually change the low

crossover point for your front main speakers, set them to 80hz and

set your sub to the same level. Your RF-82s can easily

play lower than 80hz, but this way the subwoofer will be handling

the lowest bass.

Thank you for the info

I have put my fronts on 80 Hz and my sub was always on 80 Hz.

Any tips on what my center and surrounds should be on? Specs are 1 or 2 posts

up. I did do another auto set up test with the MIC and now the center was put

to 60 Hz and my surrounds were put to 150 Hz are these cool or should I change

them?

[SilverSport]

changing them ALL to 80hz is the THX reference...you usually can't go wrong with this for a starting point...give that a try...I would try ALL speakers set to small to try...after you do this see how you like it...if you still don't care for it, you can set the front mains to 60hz...Bill

[msone]

when you say set to small do you mean on my dvd player?

[Guest " "]

reciever

[SilverSport]

...in your HT receiver menue you should have a choice, large or small...large lets your mains do the heavy bass lifting so to speak...unless you have really full range speakers, that is what you have the sub doing so set them to small...none of the other spekaers can do the heavy bass lifting (so to speak) either so set them to small as well...you should be very happy with the results...make sure you check your menue in the DVD player as well for how it is set up so you can take advatage of DTS or whatever should you decide to when playing your movies...keep us posted...Bill

[msone]

i do not have the option to set speaker size on my receiver.

[SilverSport]

can you set the crossovers??? Bill

[msone]

yes i can here is what i can pick

Full band, 40 Hz, 60 Hz, 70 Hz, 80 Hz (thx), 90 Hz, 100 Hz, 120hhz, 150

Hz, 200 hz

[Guest " "]

based on the data you provided in the intial post...you need to work from right to left. for what ever reason (speaker placement...speaker height from floor, distance from corners, see PS Note) you seem to have a limitation of not being able to go below 200hz on some speakers and below 100 hz on others.

goal is to get the sub frequency to at least 120HZ (above 120hz, woofers are no longer omi-directional), you can't leave it at 200hz since doing so would route alot of mid-bass program material to your woofers ,

PS, the 200hz limitation indicated in your measurements could be due to your sub woofer set at too high of a crossover frequency AND, AND, not OR, the phasing or the polarity of either the speakers or sub woofers is backwards from the other. CHeck to see if the sub has a phase 0 /180 switch or a polarity switch that inverts the signal...then re-run your test. Check to see if the speakers indcating 200Hz are wire correctly (stripe, rib on wires, color code, etc.)

If all else fails....and you are sure you can't mak changes on the reciver (speaker size Large or Small, xover frequencies, etc).....Are these speakers new...you being the first owner? if bought used...I would have someone check the connections for the woofer in the cabinet that's indicating a 200HZ bottom limit.

[msone]

First I would like to thank

everyone for the replies again you all have been helpful.

Now I turned down my feq on

my sub itself to a little above the 50 Hz im not sure what it is at as there

are no other numbers other then the other side and that is 170 Hz. I have my

phase button to normal other option is reverse I use a rca type jack from my

receiver to the sub so its only one wire so I dont think it can be put in

wrong.

I also took a look to make

sure things are in the right place like to and + to +. All was right, now

my RF-82s have 2 sets of binding post for bi wire but I am not using it that

way at first I was using the bottom 2 binding post and now have moved my

speaker wires to the top 2. Not sure if this means anything but on the

bottom 2 post next to the -/+ symbols it says LF and on the top 2 post it says

HF. Do these mean anything? Low feq and high feq?

Anyways I ran the mic test

again after checking wires and switching to the top post and this is what I

get.

Subwoofer = yes

Front = full band

Center = full band

Surround = 100 Hz note:

these speakers are small

Surround back = not used yet

LPF or LFE = 80 Hz (thx)

Subwoofer mode = LFE only

(thx) note: this option is only available when the fronts/center is on full

band if they are not then this option is grey.

My fronts and center were 2

days old from my first post so they are new and I got them from a store that

was given to me by the dealer finder on the main Klipsch site. My rears and sub

were new when I got them also. As for changing stuff on my receiver I can do

speaker impedance, speaker config or where I can set the feq, speaker distance,

lvl calibration and eq setting.

I have shut off everything

just incase using the top 2 binding post on my fronts is not a smart thing to

do. If they are ok to use please do tell me lol. So am I ok now or should

things still be looked into or adjust to sound better?

[Guest " "]

Speakers that have LF/HF terminals normally have a small cable connected across(they come connected red to red and black to black) them when you took them out of the box or they have a switch on the back to enable (rarely used anymore). If the jumpers are in place....it does not matter which you use.

check you manual to determine how the bi-wire terminals are set if you do not want to enable bi-wiring.

[msone]

the jumpers are in place

[Guest " "]

then it does not matter which set of terminals you use.