trachselbj Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 LF-10 at $650.00 or KSW-15 for about $425.00. Both prices include shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 the warranty of these units makes a very big difference ... ------------------ Cornwalls & Klipsch subs; leather couch & feet up; lights out & tubes glowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 19, 2001 Author Share Posted November 19, 2001 Colin, both come from authorized dealers and carry the Klipsch warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 trach, have u read this thread? http://216.37.9.58/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000750.html (minus the sub wars talk there're some good choices there ). if it's down to just those 2, that's a tough one. the lf-10 imho is the more powerful, better sounding for both music & HT, but it's had those production/reliability problems. i'd make it easy on myself for around that price & get something else that gives reliability & great bass on all material. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 19, 2001 Author Share Posted November 19, 2001 boa12, Yeah, I read that thread and took a lot to heart. In fact, just before I new Klipsch was again an option, I was on the phone about to buy a Velodyne FSX-12II BV. It cost $599.00, but that's half of what you'd have paid for it a month ago. As for the SVS's, I haven't looked at any of those. Still wondering, LF-10 or KSW-15, or just wait and check into the SVS's first? Or for that matter, has anyone heard the Velodyne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 actually yea I had the fsx for a loaner one. i'd take the vel ct-150 ($499 at www.onecall.com) over that. i've yet to hear the svs, but my hunch is that's the best for around $600. paridigm pw2200 also great for around that price. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 19, 2001 Author Share Posted November 19, 2001 The CHT-15 is going to cost me about $699.00, if I get it from an autorized dealer. Spending that kind of money, you almost need to have a reliable warranty. Have you ever heard the LF-10? It must have had something seriously wrong with it for Klipsch to stop production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 yea heard one w/ no problems at the klipsch dealer last year. great lil sub. design problem has been w/ air leaks. some have had no problems but i wouldn't pay over $400 for one. many got 'em on ebay awhile back for around that. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 19, 2001 Author Share Posted November 19, 2001 Decisions, decisions.... boa12, did you read the thread posted earlier today about using coaxial cable to connect a subwoofer? How do you manage that? And what about wires? I don't want to drop a lot of cash wiring this system if I can avoid it. Do you use the infamous "Monster Cable?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacevedo Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Hey - a better sub would probably be the Velodyne SPL1200. Onecall.com has them for $749, factory refurbished. Full factory warranty. I picked one up a few weeks ago and I absolutley love it! A great sub, especially for that price. It is more powerful than the KSW15, LF10 and the FSX12. This sub sits pretty high on the Tom Nousaine list! Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 19, 2001 Author Share Posted November 19, 2001 Bryan, is onecall.com an authorized dealer? I visited the site once tonight but didn't see anything stating that they were. I'll check it out again, though. boa12, just looked at the SVS subs and I have to say though they may sound good, that's an awfully strange beast to have sitting in the corner. Talk about footprint! I'm going to check out the Paridigms tomorrow. Everything said in the dozen or so reviews this evening sounded good. I guess I'll have to sleep on it another night. Appreciate all the input, folks. If you come up with anything more, please let me know. Sorry about the SVS's, boa12. I know they're a favorite of many in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 yea trach i use a 12 ft. monsterbass 400 cable but can't really say I could tell a dif between that & a radio shack 75omh video cable. just want shielding especially for longer runs. i'd be afraid of my own craftsmanship clamping on my own rca plugs yea that vel spl looks great 2. haven't heard that line yet. & no complaints on my vel hgs. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Let me cut this talk a bit here. The Klipsch KSW15 while no world beater is a proven, solid and inexpensive.The LF-10 is problematic(long story)and its claims are grotesque as I had this VERY unit(ok another LF-10,still an LF-10)at home and compared it to the Sunfire Mark II,no contest,not even close...the Mark II stomped a bass hole in the LF-10. The LF-10 is tempting because it look mean,it "looks"like it can outperform many.Well it cant. So if you want a very inexpensive sub the KSW15 is THE BEST choice,if you are ready to spend around $650 then get a SVS or HSU and each of these will leave the LF-10 in the sub bass dust. If you need(want) a tiny sub(not just footprint,most cylinder subs take very little space on the floor but stand out like towers above the landscape)Velodyne SPL1000 and Sunfire Mark II would fit,and if you get them from a glorified distributor(E-shop)you can get then around $750...maybe less. Hope it helps TheEAR(s) Now theears TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forresthump Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 No that's no help ear why you keep bringing those damn sunfires into an AFFORDABLE sub discussion. you can't get any of those for less than a cleveland (that US$1K). 2nd many other subs even less than $500 put the ksw in the dust. talk about nonmusical, that's any KSW. the lf-10 blows away the KSW but does have problems but maybe you can get a good one for 400. But you can get a Velo or svs or paradigm and they leave the KSW behind. The HSU or Svs take up less floor space than the KSW and can be had for the same price. The KSW may be the best value at $300 or less with full warranty from a Klipsch authorized dealer. ------------------ go forth & hump the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 Well gentlemen, it looks like I've momentarily lost the opportunity to buy the LF-10, so now it's between the KSW-15 and Velodyne FSX-12 IIBV. The first is going to cost about $425.00 to $450.00 and the Velodyne exactly $599.00. Both prices include shipping costs. I'm giving myself until Friday to decide. That's when the Quintets, RSC-1, and receiver should have completed their long journey from ubid.com. Your input's always appreciated Ear as well as yours forrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trachselbj Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my time is split this way: 75% music, 25% HT. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 $650 is too much for the LF10 anyway, they were going for $450 on uBid last year when the BBSrs like me were sucking them up, anything that makes music better will make movies great; they both require good reprodcution of the middle and lower bass notes (down to 25 Hz.) I love my LF10, I do not drive it like a teenager, but I would look for clearance subs, Canadian made or Net offerings with better values than retail dealerships - the better unit you get, the more powerful and solid your system will sound ... ------------------ Cornwalls & Klipsch subs; leather couch & feet up; lights out & tubes glowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 trachselbj - just to clarify... the Velodyne CT-150 that Boa is referring to is the discontinued predecessor to the CHT-150, which is why you can get it for less if you can find one. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 "No that's no help ear why you keep bringing those damn sunfires into an AFFORDABLE sub discussion." What do you know about help,and besides the LF-10 was priced at the same level the "damn" Sunfire Mark II.When two subs are priced at the same level you cannot ignore the "damn" competition. Again to put MORE hurt on ya THE "DAMN" SUNFIRE MARK II stomps a " damn" sub bass hole in the LF-10. If you know how to look around you should know better,the "damn" Sunfire Mark II can be had for well under a "damn" grand.And still outperform the leaky,squeaky LF-10(Colin dont take it personal here I am driecting this at FH). LOL cubed trachselbj, If your sub will serve 75% for music and only 25% HT,then take the Velodyne.You will not regret your purchase. I dont want to confuse you but why not get an SVS? The SVS will outperform them both hands down? WHY OH WHY and besides TV I am sure can give you some good advice on how to set his sub to get the maximum out of it. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 more sub wars where did these lf-10 on ubid come from? klipsch or ubid just now find some laying around? anyway, nice thing 'bout ubid w/ klipsch is u get full warranty even an extended warranty if u want on the lf-10. I wouldn't pay more than $500 total for it though. I think that'd be great though soundwise w/ quintets & music. just chancey on the problems. if you're going to pay around $600 or more & buy blind/deaf, i'd really look into an svs though. better musical sub value than the others. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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