Heideana Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'm starting to think about setting up a center channel in my hifi rig and not sure about what speaker to use for the center. My situation is that I don't have room for anything, but perhaps a small Reference bookshelf...yes, I know it should be another CW, but I don't have the room. How bad is it to use a way smaller speaker for a center channel and which of the Reference line would folks suggest as the best match for CWIII's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 OK mixing lines just is not a really viable option, been there done that. A heritage/reference mix is tolerable at best IMO. If you cannot support the addition of another CWIII, the perfect solution, then your best bet is a Heresy III. If you cannot fit a Heresy in the mix Id avoid the center all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlton Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Seadog had a solution for an all Cornwall lineup. He posted a picture at the Home Theater Shack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'm starting to think about setting up a center channel in my hifi rig and not sure about what speaker to use for the center. My situation is that I don't have room for anything, but perhaps a small Reference bookshelf...yes, I know it should be another CW, but I don't have the room. How bad is it to use a way smaller speaker for a center channel and which of the Reference line would folks suggest as the best match for CWIII's? All you are trying to do is fill the gap because you have a lot of space between flanks, and you have little space, right? A center should be very much attenuated in two channel IMHO. So, would you consider building? A box with the CWlll mids and tweet (without a woofer) could be used to complete that "curtain of sound" PWK spoke of. Wouldn't take up much room. Again, IMO, a center in two channel, should not be heard , but only be there. tc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Heideana, A single Heresy would be the choice, I think with CW mains. One question that comes to mind about your setup... how far apart are your CW's? I did a little work on setting up a center channel between Khorns. Tried a Heresy and LaScala and never really got happy with the results. Haven't been completely sure what to make of it since so many folks REALLY enjoy the center channel. What I have wondered, and don't know for sure, is if it works better in rooms where there is a considerable distance between the R and L mains. If my understanding is correct, Mr. PWK wanted to use a center when the L and R were far enough apart that the listener discerned a "hole" in the middle if there was no center to fill in. In my listening room, the corners were just right for a pair of Khorns. They performed magnificently in straight out two channel with a full sound stage. To my ears, in my room, the center channel was o.k., but not what I'd call an improvement. I was curious as to whether I would have been better pleased with the result in another room, but never found out. It would be nice if there's a forum member to send a single Heresy for you to check it out. It just might be your cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heideana Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 Thanks all...I'm just starting to float ideas around, like I usually do...life is kinda psychedelic at any given moment! My CWIII's are barely 6 ft. apart and since I don't really have an obvious hole, it sounds like I don't really need to consider a center channel, eh? I think I was thinking in Terry's vein of thought about having an attentuated center channel...just enough volume to flesh it out a bit more. It also sounds like its' a definite no, no to mix/match....I'll put the idea on hold for awhile... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I have two extra empty CW cabinets here. Member Popbumper has CNC router and has manufactured a 'vertical' motorboard. It is possible to retrofit a CW cabinet to the vertical style for use as a center channel speaker. That's my plan anyway. I have 7 matching CW's here for my future HT room. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 My K-horns are 24 ft apart with Cornwall 1 in the center. The resultant "wall of sound" is staggering. With the Cornwalls 6 ft apart don't know if it would be worth it. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I'm currently using a KLF-C7 for center. Sounds great, less expensive than many Academies. YES for HT you must have a center speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarlton Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 colterphoto1 is not the only one using a KLF-C7 for center. Works well for me. I have no room for a Cornwall or LaScala...the KLF-C7 tucks under the TV nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heideana Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Thanks! That might be my soluiton!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbsl Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I had a C7 also and it is a great center channel. I used it with my La Scalas with very good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted November 5, 2006 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2006 Heresy lll is a perfect match, same mid and high freq drivers, if it fits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think some folks here go WAY over the top on timbre matching. The RC-7 works just fine with a LaScala, Cornwall, Heresy system (of course, I think wire is wire, so take my recommendations with a grain of salt). How good is your hearing, anyway? If you'd like to hear first hand, I'm up in Santa Rosa. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think some folks here go WAY over the top on timbre matching. The RC-7 works just fine with a LaScala, Cornwall, Heresy system (of course, I think wire is wire, so take my recommendations with a grain of salt). How good is your hearing, anyway? If you'd like to hear first hand, I'm up in Santa Rosa. James I used to have an RC7 with my Cornwalls. The KLF-C7 is much better match. For serious HT, timbre makes a huge difference when sounds are travelling across the front soundstage. Just my .02- it took Indy like 18 months to get me to see the light on this point. Yes, close counts- but Heritage and Reference are about as far apart as you can get in the Klipsch line-up. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heideana Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Again all, thanks!!! You've given a lot of material to work with as usual...Hopkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I think some folks here go WAY over the top on timbre matching. The RC-7 works just fine with a LaScala, Cornwall, Heresy system (of course, I think wire is wire, so take my recommendations with a grain of salt). How good is your hearing, anyway? If you'd like to hear first hand, I'm up in Santa Rosa. James I too think wire is wire, but have you ever heard the difference between perfect and close timbre matching? I was about ready to give up on multichannel until I heard identical speakers all around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheis Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I agree, identical speakers all around would be ideal. My point, however, is that, in the real world, close enough often works pretty well - especially when you have space constraints (as I'm sure Heideana has living in SF). I'm running LaScala fronts, Heresy surrounds, and Cornwall rears with an RC7 center. It sounds better than about 99.5% of the other systems I've heard. Of course, I'm listening to music about 95% of the time - usually (horror of horrors) in 6 channel stereo. If I want to watch a movie, I just punch in the amp for the RC7. Works for me...sometimes good enough is good enough. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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