boa12 Posted February 21, 2001 Share Posted February 21, 2001 i went to use the avia guide to try to see if i could hear a dif in w/ the phase setting on my sub. but they don't put anything on the lfe channel. how are u suppose to test phase when they do this (i have my sub connected line to the sub preouts)? if i set the fronts to small then there's not enough bass from the fronts to compare. am i missing something or is avia just that ignorant? ------------------ RF-3 (front), RC-3, Cornwall I (rear) Velodyne HGS-18 sub Monsterbass 400 sub cables & Monster Z-12 wire Sony de935 a/v receiver Sony DVP-C650D dvdp Sony Trinitron 27" tv Technics dual cassette deck Technics direct drive turntable Scientific Atlanta Explorer 2000 digital cable box rock on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIK Posted February 22, 2001 Share Posted February 22, 2001 I don't think you're missing anything, I also wondered why there isn't an isolated lfe track on Avia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLee Posted February 22, 2001 Share Posted February 22, 2001 I'm not sure if this will help -- but AVIA does have a "frequency sweep" test that goes from a few hundred Hz down to about 20Hz. Would it work to just repeat that sweep several times while someone toggles the phase switch on your sub? It's not a "dedicated" test, but might serve the purpose. Just a thought .... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted February 22, 2001 Author Share Posted February 22, 2001 thanks guys. steve, i'll try that & see if it plays both the fronts & sub simultaneous. i did send avia an email to ask them about it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddB Posted February 22, 2001 Share Posted February 22, 2001 Boa, One of the few test disk that passes the LFE signal is video essentials. I hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted February 22, 2001 Author Share Posted February 22, 2001 thanks todd. strange thing is it does do lfe on the start-up & certain other tests. ok overall disk but this really burns me on the phase test. all i can think they're thinking is that the fronts are wired thru the sub speaker level. but it's supposed to be a guide to HOME THEATER. absolutely ludicrous. wonder if they'll ever write back on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO1nf Posted February 23, 2001 Share Posted February 23, 2001 boa12 other than this problem do you hear or see any difference in your HT? I've been thinking about purchasing Avia so I'm interested in what you thought over all. Up here in Canada I could get a couple DVD's or another set of bass shakers for the same price so if you never noticed much difference I won't waste my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted February 23, 2001 Author Share Posted February 23, 2001 co, how's the weather up there this time of night? i could get in trouble here but all i really used that helped was the video-tv monitor to dvdp calibration. that was good. for audio your receiver &/or dvdp probably puts out test tones for balance anyway. the sub phase test is worthless. & the sweep only goes to 20hz & is only good for locating rattles in the house. most of the disk is worthless basic info u already know. it's overkill big time. just my humble op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wife-said-no Posted February 23, 2001 Share Posted February 23, 2001 It's been a while since I used my avia cd but I remember a LFE track. Do you have the Avia disc or the Sony Avia disc. I wonder if they are different. Mine is the "special" Sony version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted February 26, 2001 Author Share Posted February 26, 2001 wsn, maybe i shoulda got the sony instead i have the ovation version. this one uses the lfe for some tests (& their lame teching sessions), but not for the sub phase test. either they shoula used lfe for this test or not mixed the disk at all in dolby digital 5.1. i don't see how it works w/ any ht receiver on this test. soooo stupid anyway, some good bass music like the chili peppers works just as well for sub phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted February 26, 2001 Author Share Posted February 26, 2001 also, I never did get any replies from the Ovation-Avia tech support team after 2 emails. DON'T BUY OVATION AVIA GUIDE TO HOME THEATER! much better ones on the market. take things on this board w/ thy grain of salt (f.e., The Art of War dvd sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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