Welshstar Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Hi Loooking for help on how these two compare ? which is the better speaker and used buy ? Thanks alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Welsh, They are both about the same sound wise.............You will find used Fortes for much less than Chrouses............. Either one is a Great Bang for the Buck...............Good Luck. http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/99007.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted December 31, 2007 Moderators Share Posted December 31, 2007 If possible go for the Forte ll version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I'd vote for the Chorus. I own both Forte I and Chorus I's, and I find the Chorus to be just that much more open with a bigger soundstage. If you don't plan to use a sub, the Forte will provide deeper bass which you will not get from the Chorus, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Exactly ....[] bear in mind, the C2c... wan'ts some watts .. where the F2 .. is happy w/ little power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshstar Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 Hi Bass is not the overriding factor, im looking for presensce and soundstage. the Cornwalls and above are just to big fpr my room. What level of amp are we looking at for the Chrous ? i do like powerful amps anyways and was looking at maybe a good Crown power amp, i prefer these to the hifi amps as I believe they are far better value. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Never had a good chance to listen to the Forte I or II. I would go with Chorus II for the mid horn and passive radiator. Pretty tight bass. Definitely needs new caps. After Dean moddded my crossovers they opened up the detaila nd soundstage considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Alan - IMHO, the Chorus will fit your bill nicely, then. Many say they were the WAF-friendly version of the Cornwall (so to speak), so if you like the Cornwall sound, I believe you'll like the Chorus sound. They are 101db efficient, so they don't need a lot of power to drive them - I've run them with my 30 wpc Fisher tube amp. But, l will say that they DO open up with more juice. I'm running mine with Acurus amps at 200 wpc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingjay Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I have both Chorus II's and Forte II's and it is really close. If I had my pick it would be the Chours II's, but if you come across a nice pair of Forte II's, get them. The mid is a little smooter, but you won't notice it unless you have both lines side by side. Now if you were comparing the Chours II's to the Quartets or the Forte's II's to the Quatets, then I would say there is a larger gap in sound quality. You cannot go wrong with either Chours or Forte either I or II, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingjay Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I forgot to mention, what kind of wattage amp? Well, I believe both Chorus and Fortes I or II are very versitle. I prefer mine to be ran on my 60 watt tube amps, but both lines don't blink (depending on gain level) on my QSC amp that pushes 700 watts rms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshstar Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Hi How do the amps compare ? Ive often thought that a good pro amp from QSC, Crest, Crown etc would be the way to go, it just strikes me that these companies are amp specialists. How does the QSC sound quality compare to your tube amp ? what tube amp do you have by the way Thanks Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingjay Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I have Dynaco Mark III tube amps. Not the best and not the worst amps. I like to compare them to a Chevy 350. There are a lot of them out there and are probably on of the most toyed with amps out there. There are a lot of modifications that can be done on these amps. I wouldn't suggest doing them yourself though, unless you are qualified. I'm not saying that the QSC is a bad amp. not just as musical to me over my Dynacos. There is more air to them, they are warmer and more involving. I think they image better have a better sound stage and I think they look cool[H]> But this is my opinion. Someone else might think different and that is great! Music reproduction and how we perceive it are very subjective. Nothing wrong with the QSC, it is a strong amp, just not in my #1 spot. Oh, and I'm sure there are tons of amps that kill my Dynacos, but I haven't auditioned many amps. So what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Do you use the same preamp with the Dynacos and the QSC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingjay Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Do you use the same preamp with the Dynacos and the QSC? .Yep. input / output impedences work. QSC does have more bass than the Dynacos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Gotcha. I know there are a ton of factors that go into the end result but I myself find the QSC to be as close to neutral as I've found in the SS amps I've tried. I haven't had good luck in my trials with different preamps. Either they dont have enough gain or they have to high of an output impedance and roll the highs and lows. I like my old marantz 2325 as a preamp. Warmth with alot of control and slam in spades. Not as refined as some but I am just an old metal head! Chaulk up another vote for the Chorus II's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingjay Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Stormin, How far away from Chicago are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Two in a half to three hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhawk92 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Alan- Both are excellent speakers, and you can't go wrong with either of them. I posted some comments in the thread that Bill H linked that compares the Quartet/Forte, so check those out. http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/99007.aspx Also, hopefully it's still in the archives, but I posted a long A/B comparison between Forte II/Chorus II when I got my new/used Chorus IIs. It's probably been about 5-6 yrs, but try searching for topics under my name. I think you can also find a good comparison between the Chorus II and Cornwall, as well as a center channel speaker shootout between the KV-3, KV-4, and Academy. In short, if I had to choose one, and space/money were no object, I'd go for the Chorus II. You lose a bit of the bottom end that the Forte II has, but I think the Chorus has a better mid- and high-end, and since I have an external subwoofer, that's not an issue. But, as I stated in the Quartet thread, I think the Forte II is probably the best all-around direct radiator that Klipsch has made, so if you have limitations on room size/cash, the Forte II will serve you perfectly. Hope that helps. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngjj Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I asked the same questions you are asking several months ago. Input from Forum members helped me decide to look for Forte IIs. While I was communicating with a Forte II seller (not a Forum member) who took forever to respond about getting together, a great Virginian in the Forum offered a beautiful pair of oiled walnut Chorus Is. He auditioned them for me and compared them to his Cornwalls and LaScallas with vintage Mac amps. I have to say the Cornwalls were the champ, but the Choruses held their own. Those babies are playing as I type this. I am powering with an HK 730. I am extremely happy with the sound. If you are getting your first pair of vintage Klipsches, Fortes, or Choruses, you will be happy. Anyway, you will not have the other speakers there to compare, so just sit back and smile! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 After the conversation at the forum regarding these speakers, my next want is the Forte, as they will reveal what I am missing in the bottom end. Just happy as a clam with Chorus and looking to Forte now to fill out/compliment the other. Do think they would!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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