bekim99 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 What i want is a system to be loud very loud without sacraficing quality i have a very very keen ear my room size is 15'X12'X9'. ok i just got a pair of rf 82's the other 3 speakers are quintets SL, I plan on upgrading the center to a rc 62 or a rc 64???? any suggestions??? i dont know yet, the rears I dont know yet as well. I have a yamaha rx v461reciever, obviously i need more juice than 100W a lot more how do i achieve this what do i need to buy??? I have a klipsch 12" sub as well. My local best buy dosent sell klipsch high end only beginner and low end electronics, so its hard for me to hear before i buy, and of course i am new to this whole high end home audio so im kinda lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Here is what Klipsch recommends. http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rf-82-home-theater-system.aspx Try your receiver, before you buy. It should work just fine. Take your time, figure out a Budget , but buy the Best you can afford. Post Pictures when you get setup. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 ok i guess i need more power i dont want to clip my speakers by under powering them. just get a really good denon er what?? whats the deal with amplifiers????? do u use ur existing reciever to send it to an amp then out to the speakers???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Take a look at outlaw audio....their stuff is very very good at reasonable prices You can get one of their processors and run each channel off a separate mono block till your ears bleed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 see i dont know or understand this mono block whats that mean???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Mono block = one amplifier for each channel. A mono block anp will amlpify one channel only. If you have a 7.1 system you'll need 7 mono block amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 ok so lets keep er simple i have rf 82's rc 62 and rs 52's what do i need to buy to power these speakers to thier max limit but still get good clean powerful sound???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatever55 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Sell the 82's and buy Jubilees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Even though you have not shared with the forum what your budget is, here is a suggestion to achieve your goal while keeping it simple. Buy a good mid/high end receiver like these: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=10420&i=580TXN905B&tp=179 http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/specialprice.asp?i=580TXN905B&cc=01&callpage=%2fApp%2fProduct%2fGroup%2fProductMenu.aspx%3fg%3d10420%26tp%3d179 http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=10420&i=022RXV3800&tp=179 http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=10420&i=033AV3808C&tp=179 I am not at all affiliated with Crutchfied, just easiest link to find. Each of these receivers are similar in specs and price point. Great amps and DACS in each brand. They will accomplish any A/V goal you are trying to acheive. As far as the rest of your speakers here are suggestions if you don't mind cherry: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/548449453/klipsch-rc62-cherry http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/544698916/klipsch-rs52-cherry http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/549999254/klipsch-rsw10d-cherry Oh yeah, not affiliated with Vann's either. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 ok right now i have a yamaha rx v461 receiver can i just buy a good amp and keep my yamaha?? If so what are some good amps to look at??? I would be willing to spend a couple grand if i need to but i couldnt imagine i would need to. If this is home audio is anything like car audio how u have a cd player running to an amp and then speakers hooked up to the amp i understand. If iam right what kind of cable would i need to hook up my yamaha to the future amp???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderbender Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 bekim99: A receiver is a" all in one unit"....Preamp with pots for attenuating loudness and controls for tone.....tuner..... amplifiers....and switching devices....all wrapped up in a shiny black box. Some receivers have "preamp outs" rca jacks that will bypass the internal amplifier section so that you can use more powerful amps if desired. The receiver you have now does not have any Pre amp outs....which means you cannot bypass it's internal amp and route the signal to an external power amp.... I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish...your speakers are relatively efficient so buy going to say a 200 WPC system you would gain headroom but only a few decibels of "loudness"....... That yamaha is 100WPC but granted not all seven channel at one time, but rarely are you going to come into a situation that all channels will require full power you can look at the big box stores and find many receivers that are 200+WPC or if you have the budget to do "seperates" i.e. dolby digital decoder, preamp power amps, be ready to drop $4000-$6000 minimum ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Fenderbender is correct, no pre-outs for an external amp. Your best bet would be for you to get a low/mid end receiver(RX-V661 to stay with Yamaha) that also has preouts and get a good used 5 or 7 channel amp like an Adcom,B&K,or Rotel. Take a look at this one: http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1224558009 I love my B&K. Built like a tank and in USA. I would probably scoop up this one if my wife gave me the go. Look at this review if you are not quite sure: http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/tech-review.php?rev=73 Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 so with a good external amp besides more power per channel do you get better sound quality more control over each speaker???? my point is what are you gaining with a external amp? What do you guys think of a denon avr 5600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 As a whole, more power,cleaner sound, more control. An amp has one function, amplifiy a signal to send to speakers and come out in the form of sound. I am sure you can't go wrong with the Denon. At the time it was released it was Denon's flagship receiver. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 ok would a b&k avr 307 replace my yamaha and be enuf power how about this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320290470920&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 I think you would be making a fine choice provided you do not want or need HDMI connections. Take a look at this: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_9_2/b&k-avr-307-receiver-5-2002.html Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 better than the denon 5600?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Can't answer about sound quality. Found very little in the form of reviews. http://www.audioreview.com/mfr/denon/a-v-receivers/avr-5600/PRD_118560_2718crx.aspx Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bekim99 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Share Posted August 24, 2008 k well i think ill just stick to that b&k get a rc 62, rc 7 or a rc 64 center, any i will take for a decent price get a new rw 12 sub and move my whole quintet sl system upstairs. I wonder if a person could hook up both; rw 12 and a synergie 12 sub up to that b&k and double up the a@@ massager? Another question i have is i noticed under the home theatre pictures some people have wierd shaped foam on the ceilings is that for vibration or sound quality er just a waste of money??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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