Thanks for the input everyone. They got away from me, bummer ! I have two pairs of Klipsch now, along with three pairs of Bowers & Wilkins, but I want to move up to Belles or Klipschorns. I think I'll be selling most of them to buy Belles Or Horns.. I live a little west of St. Louis, not many of the bigger Klipsch go up for sale around here. I was going to drive up close to Chicago to check them out, oh well, I'll keep looking.