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Actually, you are the one who refused to post the polar responses that I requested, because you knew that they would back up what I have been saying. Nice try to obfuscate though. Why not take your hissy fits to PMs, instead of trolling in public?
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Parrot... you might get a perverse kick out of this. When we went to Hope last summer, several of us got there a couple days early. One day we had the chance to swing by the factory and the Jubilee that Roy was going to 'audition' for us was in the test chamber. Of coruse we all wanted to see inside there and all that, but while in there, Roy asked "Would you like to HEAR the Jubilee?"
Well, I think our collective answer was "well DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" and we all scurried into the test chamber and they shut the door.
This thing was sitting in a very imposing way on a stand with a mic a couple feet in front of it.
As we were preparing, I was asking myself..."I wonder what he'll play for us?"
Freebird?
Frank Sinatra?
Bee Gees?
Then it started. The volume (thankfully) wasn't anywhere near its capability but it started none the less. We were getting a sneak listen to the Jube...
Then the sound grew a bit... what piece did he bestow upon our ears, but a test tone sweep!!!!
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]Funny story, Coytee. Thanks for sharing.
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Seadog,
These particular ones are matched to the walls of the room. It's the same principle as having oak veneered Khorns in an oak room. So, I agree with you in that they are not for every home, but if you happen to have a light green room, they'd be the rat's ***.
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LOL! Good one.
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Okay, whatever girl-color you want to call them.
Man colors:
Black
Brown
Blue
Green
Red
Yellow
Orange
Purple
White
and that's it.
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How about voting certain individuals off the Klipsch island? I sorta think somebody had this idea before and, if so, I don't mean to be stealing it.
Maybe 20 negative votes and you're history. We'd have to set up some rules but I think it should include Klipsch employees to be fair to all.
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Heads up, Meagain! In Chicago. Save on buying paint.
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The interesting info comes out in dribs and drabs.
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Man, I need to learn how to type faster.
Paul, I think you've managed to finally get under my skin. You're too damn smart for this crap, please quit playing the village idiot.
You're right, sorry, I'll let you play that role. [
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yep i did a 510/69 on jub lf and a 402/69 on another jub lf.
not bad if i do say so myself and i plan on turning on the amp and listening to that combo very soon!
Great! Listening to music is what it's all about. Or . . . are you going to be listening to sweep tones?
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Have you figured out the huge difference yet between the Jubilee and the Heritage speakers regarding this...
Yeah, the Jubilee is a huge step backwards because it has a big black horn. EQ'ing with a horn is good. EQ'ing with a network is bad. A consistant and equal coverage pattern is inferior to an unequal coverage pattern, or, a flat power response doesn't sound as good as a power response that isn't. The K-403 is the king of horns, and the Jubilee just isn't a Jubilee without it. No matter that PK couldn't hear a lick above 3kHz when he propped the thing up there. Both the K-510 and K402 are pure unmitigated junk because they are the horns Roy likes. No matter that PK chose Roy to build them all -- Roy doesn't have a clue. Finally, higher sensitivity, lower distortion, and superior measurements in all categories are not worth pursuing. They have no impact "in the real world".
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no that was the one in which i would respond to you!!
Do you mean "wouldn't"?
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either way, "would" or "wouldn't," I have noticed a pattern in what you
will and won't discuss. First of course there was the whole Al K.
matter, then the 402 vs 403 matter, then not coming up with anything in response to mas. But do go on entertaining the peanut gallery. -
Craig - Have you heard the Jubilee?
I know the answer to that one. He's heard it exactly as much as Dean has, you have, and I have.
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That is really interesting. I recall someone recently making a huge deal about collapsing verticals in order to promote a different horn.
LOL, did you completely miss the half dozen posts by Roy in the other threads where he explained all of this. I guess you were to busy trying to think up new ways to badger him about asthetics and the K-403 to actually spend any time trying to understand what he was saying. Why not go back into those threads and read the posts again? It will save everyone the trouble of having to explain everything to you yet again.
Which posts and threads do you mean, Junior? Was one of them the one in which the Bad Cowboy wouldn't respond to mas?
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i am not sure cause we never talked about it but i do know that paul liked for the horn to do some eqing that is why he like collapsing verticals. maybe he liked the freq response better.
That is really interesting. I recall someone recently making a huge deal about collapsing verticals in order to promote a different horn.
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I'm always getting darn near killed when I plug in my equipment that has only two prongs. Nearly everyone was nearly killed whenever they plugged stuff in before three-prongs became the norm.
On the other hand, Dr. Who has been electrocuted many times and doesn't consider it a big deal at all.
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That's downright bizarre, when that is one of the best choices for solid state amps there is, according to Mobile Homeless.
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mas, you might be, and probably are one of the good guys. I thought Roy was paying you some respect in this regard. Maybe like Parrot was suggesting (although I don't know where his post has vanished to...) you could open up a dialogue with Roy.
My post went where all the best posts go, Edwin. But, no, I wasn't suggesting that at all. Someone who responds to a serious request for info by saying he wants a note from mas's mother?
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This might be the better way for me to go. Start with base unit, then go ga-ga with the mods. Then push the whole deal with a couple of crappy chip amps.
Yeah, digital EQ, digital delay, cheap digital amps. That's the audiophile route!
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Keep in mind, though, Rick, this is just the asking price. It looks like the guy who wrote the review did dump a total of close to $2000 in it, though. I'm not sure where the extra thousand added value came from--maybe for the trouble of writing the ad on audiogon?
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Sam Kim certainly straightened up a lot of wires. It barely looks like an EICO anymore at all. But I hope anyone at audiogon who is considering buying this unit reads Stereophile's measurements by John Atkinson:
http://www.stereophile.com/integratedamps/606eico/index4.html
Although some aspects of its measured performance were okaythe fairlylow output impedances, the mainly second-harmonic nature of itsdistortion signature, the honest power ratingthe EICO HF-81's poorlow- and high-frequency linearity, its under-performing phono stage,and the idiosyncratic nature of its tone controls leave me scratchingmy head about why so many audiophiles regard it as one of thebest-sounding amplifiers of the "Golden Age."John AtkinsonI'm assuming that Sam Kim improved the stock HF-81, but who knows.
Bill, if you ever thought of selling yours, there's no better time than when an ultra-expensive unit is being advertised!
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Here's a better answer. Why should any consultants and designers spec them when there are plenty of companies who not only specialize in state of the art commercial product lines, but who are also more than willing to not only provide data, but to provide value added services that help consultants to spec and recommend their products?
No wonder they are running EAW, Renkus Heinz and Community* out of business! NOT!
* (and others. But subjecting you to Meyer is not a nice thing to do to a friend!)
But Klipsch has already sold six pairs of the speakers. They must be doing something right that you're not giving them credit for.
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Worse than Clarence
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I don't think we should be talking about Clarence or thermalup when they aren't here to defend themselves. Does that seem fair?