Parrot
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Everyone here seems to be upgrading their Heritage speakers to Tractrix horns (present in all the current Klipsch lines), but it seems there is too small of a market to justify their existence in the home market in the USA. It would also not make sense to upgrade the vererable Khorn with such a large horn 402 vs. 401 horn (low WAF), which doesn't matter behind a theater screen or in my basement, which my wife respects as my domain. I don't want to try and re-invent the wheel if a PWK disciple (Roy) has already done all the R&D for a PWK aproved horn. and all I have to do is bolt it onto an existing device in my arsenal. Even if I were to make my own out of wood, I don't have instruments to measure it.
Not sure what you mean by "Everyone here"--hardly more than a few have gone that route. They just post far more frequently than the thousands who keep things stock.
"PWK approved horn" is not correct. PWK never even saw the 402, let alone heard it. He used the 403 in his public demo of the Jubilees, and had the 403 in his own home. Unfortunately PWK became too infirm and eventually died before the Jubilee top was completed to his satisfaction. What is available from the factory is the Jubilee low frequency bin, which was the big deal to PWK anyway, and your choice of either the 510 or 402 from Klipsch for higher frequencies, or some other non-Klipsch configuration of your own choice. The Jubilee as it exists today should be viewed as a tinkerer's speaker (because of the top and lack of aesthetics), and not a finished, home product. Better heard and not seen, it is something that calls for the purchaser's active involvement, rather than a speaker you can just relax and forget about as you enjoy the music.
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It's interesting when a purchaser of a speaker needs extreme amounts of assurance from others that he did the right thing. You might think that if a speaker were that good, its purchaser wouldn't be so insecure, so defensive, so upset when someone points out blatantly obvious aesthetic problems or discusses its top's true history.
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Good info, Bad Cowboy, but getting it out of you is like pulling teeth. I've yet to run into anyone in this sweet old world who worried about "collapsing vertical polar patterns" so how important could it be?
All Klipsch now needs to do is get some K-403 horns manufactured, build a top to enclose it like the Khorn top, commission Al K. to design some crossover networks for it, veneer the front, and you've got a true home Jubilee.
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If Lisa ever bought Jubilees, they'd be white before you could say Sherwin-Williams.
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The K-403 is the horn for the true home Jubilee. It's the one PWK used for his own speaker. Wooden ones were deemed too expensive and of uneven quality by Klipsch, so they made some black fiberglass ones.
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Meagain,
Allan's recommendation is spot on. If you use interconnects less than $1900 each, you're not getting the best out of your equipment.
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another boring thread since deano placed his order........ho hum......who's next?
You could discuss the K-403. Couldn't production ones be made out of fiberglass, which would eliminate the "wooden" horn production problem? How does it sound compared to the 402 and 510?
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Congrats. I remember being quite fascinated by the vinyl as a youngster.
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Sometimes you can't give big speakers away.
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I thought you were talking about the figurines.
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Not that anyone cares but I had my head checked for lice today.
Don't tell me that you'd been hanging around Britney?
http://fadedyouth.blogspot.com/2007/02/balding-britney-lice-theory.html
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I sort of have a stubborn issue as to why I have to give out my last name. LOL
What, are you famous or something? I mean, besides here? [
]If you must know, she's a covert CIA agent.
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Your hearing like your sight diminishes with age...............post all the articles you want.............time will tell the truth........I know you younger guys are laughing now, but you won't be in 20 years....................HUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, right. Next thing you're going to say is our sex drives and abilities diminish with age.
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http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-06/962288755.Me.r.html
Gary,
According to this interesting post I've linked to, it isn't age itself that matters, it's what the subject has been exposed to, and possibly general health and diet.
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It was a joke.
No, it was an attempt at a joke.
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Coytee,
You already had speakers (?) on top of your Khorns, so it wouldn't seem like much of a jump for you to go with Jubilees.
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On Friday I'll start having second thoughts and be wondering if I should have bought a pair of Delgado's K-402 horns.
Didn't even take you 'til Friday. Man, you work fast.
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Bad Cowboy,
I don't know what's up with Dean insulting you like that, especially since you've designed a passive network just for him, but I think your last post makes a lot of sense and confirms much of what I've said, so I certainly appreciate it.
As to the K-403, couldn't production ones be made out of fiberglass? Doesn't it sound good?
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Here's how it turned out: I have superb hearing up to about 4,000 Hz. Then it begins to fall off slightly to 5,000 Hz. Then comes the big drop... at 6,000 Hz I'm down 35db. At 8,000 Hz, I'm down by another 10 db.
Rob,
My condolences. But on the positive side, you can hear the fundamentals of just about every instrument's highest range and vocals. That's not so bad.
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Bad Cowboy,
You've had more than 24 hours to dig into your memory banks. Have you come up with any evidence that PWK (Paul W. Klipsch) figured the 402 would be a good option for a home Jubilee?
Also, if you know, what is the black horn on top of the Jubilee that Miss Valerie has in her home? If you know, how does it compare to the 510 and the 402? I'm figuring that since PWK chose that for his own home Jubilee, it's probably better for a home environment than the 510 or the 402.
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I read the other day that a certain political party is planning to tax eBay sales, and that sellers will have to report all sales to the IRS. It starts with light bulbs, then eBay, pretty soon you're into some serious intrusion. The Taliban, you'll recall, bans all music--that's pretty intrusive if you ask me.
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If you read through this thread and the many others even pwk thought the Klipschorn Jubilee bested the Klipschorn which we all know is no small feat.No, not really. There is some discussion that the bass cabinet specs out better, but that's about it.Obviously the top half was not ever really completed for a home version, and the theater version is a three-way. So much for the essential element of the Jubilee, that it be a two-way!
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Question for Bodcaw Boy (Roy)
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Yes, that's true. The only thing lacking in the low frequency bin is the veneer and grilles, and those are available as special orders from the factory (I think).