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Thanks for that. I like how the rp160 sound in the room. Bass is decent for a bookshelf. But I want to feel the bass from a bass drum when your listening to orchestra. What I'm afraid of is that the bass might drown the music considering it's really big for the room. Like a booming bass sound all over the room. Sorry I am not that technical when it comes To SPL and sorts though 8 get your point. 😀👌. I just want to have almost a pure analog sounding system. The only digital in my system is my CD player and Bluetooth receiver. I listen mostly to local. Alternatives, some Rock, jazz, Broadway and accustics. Tubes and klipsch really compliment each other..

Hi. I just want to get an advise regarding floorstander and roomsize. Currently I am using a rp160 bookshelfs in my house. It's like only 1' away from the wall. Room Dimension is estimated at 11'W x 19' L x 8' H. It's a multipurpose area. Untreated. The bookshelfs are only 2.5M apart from each other. I can't move them further anymore. I am planning to get an Rp280f as an upgrade but afraid that the speaker might just be too big for the room and will produce too much bass? Or should I just consider getting the 260F? Im powering the speakers with a custom made tube preamp and a custom made kt120 power amp.

Just an update.... It turned out that the lack of bass was somewhat because the sound was thin because either the tube amp wasn't fully broken or also the rp160 was still in breaking period. Right now the sound is more open and the bass is already there although at some music the bass tends to sound abit rounder. Probably it's because of the tubes.

That would be the next problem. Thank you for all the replies guys.... Really appreciate it. Happy holidays!

Here's what my speaker output looks like. It's both for 4ohms and 8ohms compatible. That's how the builder designed it. After visiting my friends shop and listening to the gear again in my house, there are two things I noticed that could probably be the problem. 1. The amp Is probably need some more time to open up. (let's not make a debate about breaking in 😁) 2. Room accustic. It's canceling some of the bass from the speaker because when I was In the shop the bass was like 30% more audible it almost made me scratch my head. Would like to try to use some bass traps or other sound treatments but I'm a bit hesitant since the area where my set up is was a mix use room.

Yup. They are near the corners. Probably the amp was completed around September of this year. Then around October I had them replaced the stock capacitors to mundrof Supreme. They lately changed the preamp tubes from JJ to psvane tressure. Yes I do wait for it to warm up.. Manual bias. Phase is correct. When I brought the amp to my friends shop I was really surprised that the rp160 was really putting out a lot of bass. The room where we at was sound treated, that's where I realized that I was not really lacking from bass. Even the slam was there. But after comparing it with other amp, what we noticed is that my amp was fairly sounding thinner and lacks the openess of the other tube amp that we tested. But those kt120 does really bring some big bass into the speaker. That's where I realized that just maybe the amp was still not yet properly broken In. But would be saving for an Rp280f soon...

Moo86jj7iy84t Well....... For the longest time "break-in time" was a subject of a long debate. Either you belive on it or not. I guess, will just have to play along with it. Have nothing to lose but time. Time well spent listening to good music. If after along time I still find it lacking, probably it's time for another upgrade. Like what normally happens when you thought that you had the perfect gear, but after sometime find it lacking.

Brought the amp and the speaker to a friend's audio shop, we sampled the gears. Was really surprised that there was a lot of bass and it ain't lacking. Though the sound was a bit thin but Soundstage was there. We tried to hook the rp160 to a 300B PSE amp 20wpc and played some samples. Bass was not far from my amp but the sound is much fuller. We have concluded that probably my amp was still relatively new. Even if I had it for 3 or more months already. I listen to it for like 2 to 3 hours only. He told me to just use it and play some good music and wait for the capacitors and the tubes to open up.

It has only 2 output terminals. Both for 4 and 8ohms.

Hi. Dirtmudd, I had them like a foot away from the wall with slight toe in and probably 2.5 meters or 7ft apart from each other.

I thought so Too... It's not like the bass is totally lacking. What I can't figure out if It's really the amp That is at fault or I was just asking too much for the monitors. Though if it would be the amp, probably making the output transformer a bit. More beefier would help. Because I'm really expecting the amp to behave a bit like an SS due to It's push-pull design and with a kt120 tubes that are known for its bass and dynamics. Probably I just need to hook these speakers to a different amp for comparison like you guys suggested.

Pzannuci and parlophone1, Thank you for your inputs. You guys are right. Probably I was just expecting a lot from the amp considering it was a kt120 which should have ample of bass compared to other power tubes. I do understand that when it comes to bass slam or bass accuracy, that's SS territory. It's not that the speaker sounded really dull, it's just that sometimes your high up in your listening and awaiting that beat to come then suddenly you are let down by the lack of impact. Was not able to give a comparative test between my old hybrid amp and my new tube amp. Though I can say that the tube amp was really musical. Way better than the old hybrid player, but if my memory is right I find that the hybrid amp has a tighter bass. That's all there was for the hybrid amp that I can recall... There are lots of things to consider like what you guys said... Speaker position, I'm really limited on positioning the 160's at 1 foot away from the rear walls and approx. 1.5 feet away from the side wall. Distance from both speakers are like 2.5M(7-7.5ft approx) away. Listening position is almost the same distance as the two speakers with toe in towards the listeners position. Cracking up the volume close to 11, the 160's comes alive. You can hear More details, bass extension is also good. At times it's just the attack that is missing. But I cannot find any fault in the amp and speaker combo when playing jazz, accustic, alternative music, female vocals, or any other music that is not bass slam heavy. I Also have a small psb 8" sub along side with it. But even if I cross it higher in the frequency range I still can't get the impact that I'm looking for. It's probably the limit or characteristic of the amp being it as a tube. Just really love the warm sound of the tubes. But you guys are right. They tend to be expensive for what they are.

Hi to every one. DJ here from Manila. I'm really happy to see that there are still forums that are really active even with the advent of FB and other social media platform. This would be my first post. Just started with Hifi this year. Probably Q1. My initial set up was a pair of Psb alpha B1 speakers powered by a hybrid tube amp with a rated 35wpc. At first they sounded OK but not until I heard the klipsch rp160. It was demoed using an emotive amp. Sorry forgot the model but it was rated like 50wpc. Moving forward, i replaced my psb and hybrid amp with the rp160 and a locally made kt120 PP UL/TR rated at 90wpc UL and 50wpc TR mode. Feels like the amp was really upto the task, the rp160 was already loud at 9 to 10 position. Don't have any problem with the highs and mids of the rp160 but I feel like it was lacking some bass slam or there are certain drum rolls or sound that becomes null. I really don't know if this was because of the amp or its the limitation of the speakers. There are some rock music that sounded dull because you can't feel the weight of the bass drum or the heavy metal feel. It's in a. Multi purpose room, like 3.4M wide and about 7M long. I love how the rp160 sound but it's kind of a let down on the drum or bass department. I hope you can shed some light on my problem. Thank you.