[Klipsch RP-260F semi-harsh]

18 minutes ago, glens said:

Your amp just might be clipping a fair amount.  Some of that stuff is terribly compressed which raises the average power level considerably.  Your amp might just be running out of steam and clipping makes the highs harsh.  Turning up the bass could make things worse if so.  How much is it rated for?

Sorry English is not my native language. If you mean Watts by rating it is 85 per channel. I don't think the amp is clipping since metallica even sounds harsh on lower volumes.

[Klipsch RP-260F semi-harsh]

2 hours ago, garyrc said:

 

 

Welcome to the forum!

 

Alternatives to turning down the treble are:

1.  Turn up the bass a bit
2.  Add a good subwoofer, and turn it up a little.

One reason these tend to work, without cutting treble detail, as with a treble control that rolls off the treble starting at the top, is that when you set the main volume to your preferred volume level, you probably take your cue mostly from the bass -- when the bass is powerful, the music is "loud," even though the midrange and treble will be lower in comparison with the bass, since you haven't turned the Main Volume up as far, yet haven't sloped the midrange/treble down the way a tone control would.  The goal is to deal with the imbalance and harshness without vacating the highest frequencies that provide the "air" and "shimmer."

 

You might try putting the speakers in the corner, which should increase the bass by up to 6 dB.   If you do, put some absorbent material on the side walls, where the sound from the tweeter would first hit the side wall (carefully place a yardstick or piece of board flat across/against the front surface of the tweeter, then determine where it would first hit each sidewall.  Place the absorbers there, having them extend 2 feet farther into the room.  You only need pads about 2 feet wide, and 4 feet high, centered on the height of the tweeter.  No need for the pad to go all the way to the floor.  Don't put in too much absorption.

 

 

Thanks to Chris A for these ideas.  He wrote them with corner horns in mind, but if you put your speakers deep into corners (what I'm suggesting) you have a situation similar to corner horns.   See Chris A's Corner Horn Imaging on this forum.  Try it with some folded over blankets first, to see if it helps.

 

Do you have carpeting?  Some throw rugs (area rugs) especially at the points the tweeter sound would bounce off the floor, might help.  Again, don't over absorb, or at least make one kind of change at a time.

 

Your room may be a little small, which could mean you are getting a higher proportion of early reflections than later, complex, reverberation that usually sounds good.  Sometimes small rooms sound bright.  I had a room once with L = 12 feet, W= 9 feet, and a sloped ceiling with the lowest point 8.5 feet high and the highest point about 14 feet, for a volume of 1,215 cubic feet.  I put Klipschorns in there.  People thought I was crazy.  But with carefully placed absorption and diffusion it sounded good.  Later, it sounded even better when I added a Lexicon CP1 environmental processor that provided a little more reverberation time, and was fed only through two Hersey IIs I placed to the rear, near the ceiling.  The Klipschorns got the pure, unadulterated signal.  When we moved to a new house, with a room about 4 times as large, I no longer needed the Lexicon, but it died on its last day in service.  Perfect timing.  Used Lexicons are online at very low prices (original retail was $1,000), but I'm chary about buying such a complicated device used and online.  Your ears would probably be your only testing devices. 

 

Good Luck!

Thanks for the great tips, really appreciate it. I do have a carpet in front of the speakers all the way to the listening position. I have done the tweeter "trick" were you have someone walk around with a mirror and on the angle you the tweeter in the mirror from the listening position is were it bounces of the wall. I did put a pillows there just to see if it made a difference and it sure did. I also use regular toilet paper in front of the horns with the speaker covers.
I will try the bass thing you said. I used a XTZ 10.16 sub prior to getting the r-112sw which sounded better on lower volumes than the klipsch so you might be onto something there!

[Klipsch RP-260F semi-harsh]

8 hours ago, willland said:

@CptPrice,

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

Give us a description of your room, length x width x height, hard/soft surfaces(floors, walls, drapes, rugs, carpet, etc)

Are speakers toed in/out?

 

Bill

Sorry for the late reply.
My room dimensions are; Length 4.5m ( 14.7 ft ) Width 3.4m ( 11.15 ft ) Height 2.35m ( 7.70 ft )
I unfortunately sit on the width and not length since I have a bed and a desk in the way. Tried to move the furniture around but it's not possible.
I do have a carpet, some stuff on the walls, drapes, a bed, desk and a small table. Basically a "normal" room.
Speakers are facing straight, tried both toed in and out.

[Klipsch RP-260F semi-harsh]

Hey, I have had my Klipsch RP-260F with r112sw for around 3 months now. I really like the sound image but at "higher" volumes I do actually find them a bit too bright, especially listening to something like metallica where the cymbal sometimes can be ear piercing. I really do like the dynamic of the speakers but I can't listen to them for too long at high volumes ( which I prefer ). 

My question is am I doing something wrong?
Is my room too small? Am I sitting too close? Is it a bad amp match?

Stereo amp; Yamaha AS-501
Speaker distance; 1.65m (5.5ft )
Listening position distance; 1.5m ( 5 ft )

It's the absolute maximum distances I can use in my room.