[Klipsch Epic Owners Group]

I cannot imagine 300 Mac watts into each of 5 CF3s not instantly rupturing your eardrums lol.

[Klipsch Epic Owners Group]

I guess, I could add to this.  I do not use mine in a HT setup but i wanted to just list how I run mine.

I have them running from a cayin a50t in trilinear @ 16 watts .  The volume  knob is only at  10'o clock  and I do get bass from them in my vinyl setup.

So they can sound very good with low wattage. I sit about 6-7 feet from them.

 

[My listening space]

I really like the wood. I wonder if i could ask a question.  In my room I painted the ceiling black with the intention of doing what you did with the 1x4's around and perhaps a pattern across like that.  How did you attach them to the ceiling and what is the ceiling there made of? 

[Fortes in a small room?]

i'm sure the more knowledgeable  and long time members will chime in as well but I figured I can actually contribute to this due to my room size.

I did run my Forte 1's in an 11x11 room with no issues.  In fact now I have upgraded and run Epic cf3's in the same room and they are great as well.

With the fortes you'll want to experiment with placement. try close in to the corners , try further out. Try just out from the walls - You will get different bass response. see which sounds better to you.  I've found in my square room that running 'normal' speakers diagonally across the room produced the best bass - but with the forte's i liked them instead parallel to the walls due to the radiator.  Now that I am using the Epics - I am back to diagonal as they sound better this way - in my room.

 

 

[New addict with some different questions and observations.]

I figured I would add these pictures to this post - since they help display the difference between a crites upgraded and non-upgraded tweeter.  these pictures are from my 2 different sets of kg4's. the dark ring is the non-upgraded. 

[New addict with some different questions and observations.]

28 minutes ago, DizRotus said:

The stock phenolic diaphragm, shown below, is almost black.  The second photo shows the silver Crites titanium diaphragm visible from the outside.

 

-ok - then it looks like one set of kg4's and the fortes are not upgraded.  all have small silver circles in the center - but the 2 non-upgraded ones have that dark color bordering around the center small circle . and not the flat silver of the upgraded kg4's

 

 

 

[New addict with some different questions and observations.]

50 minutes ago, PrestonTom said:

R Serling: I am not sure why you are so focused on "upgrading".

Is there something about the sound you do not like or find lacking?

 If truth be told, there is very little energy coming from the tweeter and the stock tweeters are not bad. I would spend my efforts elsewhere. 

Good Luck,

-Tom

the difference between my crites upgraded kg4's and non upgraded forte I's is striking.  and i mean all in the treble area - piano key strikes, harmonics , decay....

[New addict with some different questions and observations.]

1 hour ago, Rivernuggets said:

Yes, Crites tweeters will be aluminum/metal in color. The originals are black.

With KG 5.5s and a Heresy II pair I could see the difference by removing the cloth grille and looking down the horn. KG 4s should show just as easily.

With KG 4s, removing the passive woofer on the back should give you a decent look at the crossover.

I examined the tweeters for all 3 sets of speakers.  All 3 have some kind of silver center circle.  The one set of kg4's that i know for sure are upgraded have a flat silver surround circle around the center circle.  the other 2 pairs of speakers have a deep reddish/orangeish/brownish circle surround.- is that the original phenolic? material .

[New addict with some different questions and observations.]

1 hour ago, Emile said:

Hi Rod,

 

Welcome to the forum ... haha; even though you only have 7 Klipsch speakers  

 

You can usually "tell" if you have the Ti diaphragms ... as in your KG4's.  Same experience with Forte's (V1).  Got them about a year ago and thought they sounded dull/horrible.  Upgraded the diaphragms and they were much better   Still not a big fan of Forte's ... sold them a couple of months ago; replaced them with CF-3's ... much better.  

 

OK; next try some "pro" speakers. IMO they are in a different league.

 

Cheers, Emile

ok well i will at least try the upgraded diaphragms on the forte's - i would like to see how they sound elevated with  an upgraded tweeter- i do like my upgraded kg4's.

i have not seen cf-3's around here yet.  how would contrast them to the forte's ? 

[New addict with some different questions and observations.]

So a few months ago i had no klipsch speakers - now I have 2 pairs of KG4's and a pair of Forte I's and new HT klipsch fronts.(though i just put the un-upgraded kg4s up front now lol.

* Question 1: Can you tell if a tweeter has a crites upgrade from the outside without removing it ?

* Question 2:  Whats the easiest route (which component to remove) to check to  peek and see if crossover has been upgraded?

My setup is like this I believe-

* KG4 - oiled walnut - has both tweeter and crossover upgraded according to previous owner

* KG4 - Blonde Oak ?  - unknown upgrade status (my belief is that it has not been)

* Forte I - oiled walnut - unknown upgrade status (my belief is that it has not been) which leads to my observations.

* system 1 - nagaoka mp150 -> technics 1700mk2 -> grant fidelity tube buffer -> anthem receiver (being replaced with musical paradise tube amp soon)

* system 2 - soundsmith carmen -> vpi prime -> rogue audio cronus magnum

-- I got the Forte's last and expected to be somewhat impressed over my KG4s - but I wasn't - The crites upgraded KG4's really grab your attention with their clarity but cannot be toed in much at all as that 'brightness edge' shows up.  The forte's i have been experimenting with and are currently pointed at the listening seat and are not harsh in the least but do not have that attention grabbing realism of the upgraded KG4.

* Question/Observation 3 - Is it the Crites tweeter upgrade that adds the clarity /realism that grabs you?

* Question 4 - aside from just replacing old /bad caps - how does upgrading the crossovers generally affect the sound ?

ok- if you made it this far ... thanks for reading.  if you have any anwers - i appreciate those too.