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Could use some help from the 2 channel forum. Back in 2009 Todd Crane posted on this site the following regarding Frazier ceiling speakers: "The other's were 8 inchers, but one did have a baffle box that fit above the ceiling, so you'd get a little more bass out of it. models #'s: F8-2T-10 with a med duty 8" and a 3" cone tweeter. F8-2C-10 1 med duty 8" driver. F8-3T-10 3 tiered unit ( the other are 2) same stuff as the F8-2T-10, and a sloted f-1200 Modified Helmholtz tuned slot enclosure to fit above all the ceiling speakers. ( the same that we used for all our home speakers." Can Todd Crane or anyone else give me more information on these 8" ceiling speakers? Especially outside dimensions and where the port is located. Installed in my ceiling there appears to be two different types of cabinets. One is approximately 14.5" deep and the other is 12.5" deep. Both are about 11.5" wide. No other dimensions are available without cutting into the ceiling. The builder may have covered over the port with plaster board on some of the speakers. Thanks in advance.