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    sales people!!! grrr

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    Posted

    yes I do.

    The main reason i asked him to flip it around is 1) i have my own

    subs and I know it can make a drastic affect sometimes and 2) I ve seen

    forum members take there rsw's and run them backwards.

    also i should note that after the subwoofer was turned around it sounded tighter and less boomy. so in this case it helped.

    scp53

    sales people!!! grrr

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    i see your point. but i told him right out im interested in it.

    oh, and this room is no where near hot and he had a polo shirt on. and

    i also should note that even if i hadnt requested him to flip it

    around, i still would have told him to pull it out. hell, the driver

    was really dam close to the wall. i think that makes a sub sound bad

    when its firing really close to the wall(plus there was a corner near

    the sub too). so by either flipping it or pulling it out, it got teh

    driver out of the corner. if he really didnt want to do it, he

    could have just said managers wont let me or rules around here restrict

    me from doing that. those i would buy even if they were bs. what i wont

    tolerate is being a a$$ hole about the whole situation. thats

    unexceptable.

    scp53

    sales people!!! grrr

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    just to note, i offered to help but he wanted nothing to do with it.

    imo, the sub's not that dam heavy. hell you wanna talk heavy? i got a

    sub at home that weighs 120+ lbs and MUST have two guys to move. all

    this guy had to do was unplug it(zero force needed) and drag it out,

    turn it around, and slide/pull it back. not that big of a deal. hell,

    prob didnt lift a finger in the last hour and now you think he balks at

    taking 30 sec or so to move it around. whatever. if he's to dam lazy to

    do that ONCE in a great while he can stick it.

    sales people!!! grrr

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    i completely agree with Mikekid's point. i can tolerate a less

    knowledgeable sales person. what I CANT handle is someone that is being

    a complete jerk and *** hole.

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    toddvj

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    Wait a minute, you just said you had no intention of buying it. So you

    were making yourself a pain in the ***, while he didn't make a penny

    talking to you. If I had a nickel for every customer, who "maybe might

    think about buying something, maybe next year or so, who makes makes

    crappy work for me and wastes my time, I'd be rich. I would've told

    you to do it yourself, and walked out of the room.

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    oh, and as far as me "considering buying the sub", how the hell would i know if i didnt give it a decent listen?

    what if i was a audio geek/tech like i am now but had never heard of

    klipsch or been on boards that talked about klipsch and the rsw?

    because i have been on here so long i could buy numerous subs based on

    peoples posts and generally speaking end up with a good product.

    but if you have never heard of a product, much less actually LISTENED

    to it, how can i say if im even interested in it? is there something

    wrong with a "thorough" demo?

    are these demo rooms not meant to give a thorough listen in? excuse me,

    but for flippin 1400 msrp, i think i dam right better get to listen to

    it for more than 1 min. i feel that asking him to tuorn it around is

    very minor. hell, it takes 30 secs to do. it took him more time to

    complain about turning the sub around than it did for him to turn the

    sub around, give me a angery look, and press play on the cd player to

    demo it.

    do i have to walk into these places thinking im gonna buy something?

    if thats the these people are going to be, they can kiss my rear cause im putting my greens else where.

    btw, i failed to mention i have listend to the sub one other time wiht

    this guy. maybe he held a grudge against me or something. maybe in his

    book im obligated to BUY a 1400 dollar piece of audio equipment with

    just a short demo? dunno.

    well, sorry for teh long post. not sure if it all made sense as im very tired. peace out, scp53

    sales people!!! grrr

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    im seriously thinking of calling him back today and make him shit a

    brick when i tell him "hey i ve decided im going to buy an rsw but

    instead of the 12,... i think im going to get the rsw 15.(sales

    person's face lights up on other side of phone[:D] . big smile, eyes

    about to pop out of head. after all, he has a huge commision coming

    right?). i was really impressed with that sub yesterday. however,

    (giving him pure bs.) Im going to the cities tomorrow and think I'll

    pick the sub up while im there. but, thanks for your time yesterday and

    if it wasnt for your being a jack @$$, I would have bought it right

    then!!! have a nice day...(imagine the anger and fluster on the guys

    face[:@])"

    what does every one think about that. id maybe do it. i guess im just

    still amazed at his really really crappy attitude. and on top of that

    his lack of technical knowledge and handeling of equipment. and just

    for extra emphasis, this guys attitude was REALLY bad. from his face

    and body language to the way he talked to me etc. you would need to be

    there to understand. i was so pissed when i was there i even gave him

    the byrd behind his back multiple times. probably shouldnt have done

    that but it made me feel better.[:)] well, sorry for the long post. laters, scp53

    sales people!!! grrr

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    well yesterday i had a really crappy experience with a salesman at FS.

    i came there and i have been there numerous times to hear the rsw 12.

    realistically i doubt id ever buy one because im a diy type of guy. but

    non the less i would consder sometime in the next year.

    so any ways i went there i wanted to listen to the rsw 12 and this one

    guy played it for me. and then, i asked him if he could possible turn

    the sub around cause the active driver was really close to the wall and

    the corner. he made a big a$$ deal about it and was like "if you buy

    this you can fidle with it all you want in your room." and i thinking-

    hum... i m about to possibly(well not today) drop money and this is the

    answer i get. i think for that cash its not that big of a deal. and

    then he's "well are you even going to buy it" or something like that.

    and im like well not today. finally we walked over and he tried to move

    the sub.

    then the rca was to short to turn the sub around so it had to be

    unplugged. instead he just told me its too short and he cant flip the

    sub around. then im like "its called unplug the rca cable, duh!". then

    he's like, dude were just too busy today(6 30 at night and like 3 cars

    in the lot lol. btw, this whole

    time he was being a jerk about it all. like i was bothering him to demo

    it or whatever. ) then he did put it around. and then when he

    turned it around he put his hands on the woofer as he turns it around.

    im like wtf mate? moron. then he almost blows it up because he turns

    the gain all the way up when he puts the rca into the sub. im just like

    "wow, he knows nothing". so then i demoed it and he had NO interest in

    answering my questions at all!! im like what mains are playing or just

    some real simple questions so i could see how well the sub would

    integrate with the mains it was playing with. he wouldnt help at ALL so

    i just walked over and fideled with the x over and gain. the onnly

    thing he told he told me was that it soudns way better the other way.

    im like, whatever. i thought it sound better. less boomy and tighter

    with it turned around. then was telling me it made no sense to hve the

    passive firing backwards. obviously he knew nothing. there are mayn

    subs that have ports in the back and sound fine. a passive rad is no

    different.

    finally, this one song ended that i had broght in, i pulled it out,

    told him "thanks" and walked out. i was seriously thinking of telling

    him i happen ot be going to the cities tomorrow so i m going to make my

    purchase there. in fact im going to get the rsw 15 instead. thanks for

    your demo time though and being a *** hole about the whole thing.

    so, i dont know where i was going with that one. just wanted to

    vent. any one else have similar experiences with FS or other stores.

    scp53

    small, cheap starter system?

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    yeah, i hear what your saying. the only thing that would concern

    me(just my opinion.) is the amp on the ultras. i personally have never

    owned them but because ive seen a lot of post about them in the 5.1

    section, id be a little more hesitant. past that, yeah no doubt there

    better than the missions.

    as for a dvd player with pre outs? i actually have one and for what it

    cost, its sound alright. in particular i have the toshiba sd 4900 i

    believe. its like a 100 bucks or so. i got it for 80 i think. even has

    all the setup of speakers and such for the decoder. size of speakers,

    distance away, db's, and some other things. downfall is that there

    still cheap dacs(i think even the cheapest of receivers($200 +) are

    better than this one for decoding), and in my case, i cant do dts. it

    only outputs dolby.

    scp53

    KSW10 is dying

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    seams to me that its definitley the amp. imo, i wouldnt spend to much

    money on it. maybe you should buy a amp from partsexpress.com and

    replace the ksw's amp. the problem would come in if that ksw amp is

    internally eq'd or boosted some where. but then again, some think the

    ksw subs are a little boomy anyways so maybe the a different amp would

    help flatten it out? i dunno. the other problem would be getting the

    amp to fit the box. you could just by a amp and run the wires up

    through the port and to the driver. cosmetically it wouldnt be great

    but sound wise it would be fine. i have personally done it with my subs

    for testing sake.

    the advantage to doing it this way is you could build a diy subwoofer

    later with the same amp or something. the amps i would look at are

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-804

    this is a 240watt amp that has a nice x over(24db) and has soft

    clipping. it is the best of these 3 amps. i have seen a TON of people

    buy these on the pe forums and have seen no problems.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-750

    this is a very new amp that pe started handeling. i dont know much

    about it in terms of reliability. has soft clipping and small size

    though.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-794

    this is a very similar amp to the 240 above except that its 250watts,

    has a less sharp x over, and has NO soft clipping. imo, its a fine amp

    but the 240 is much better being its cheaper, has a soft clipping and a

    sharper x over.

    hope this helps. the real big reason id buy a seperate amp is because i

    repair would probably run near what a new amp would costs. thats just a

    guess. and what if u repair it and it takes a crap again? i have 2 pe

    amps(a 250 as already stated and a 500) and both are excellent. no

    probs ever. i ve had the 250 for over a year and beat the shit(its

    gotten VERY hot at times. burns you hand. ) out of it and it still

    works very well. and u also can diy later if u choose. k, nuff of my

    repetative talking and nonsense. sorry for the long post. hope

    this helps.

    scp53

    Future Sub-15?

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    is it equally good for music and movies? i seriously might get one

    because i need something on the smaller side. my atlas is just too big

    in size. need to be mobile in the coming years for college. scp53

    Who owns the Dayton Titan here?...

    in Home Theater

    Posted

    i own the dayton titanic 10 and its a decent sub. however, the amp that

    it comes with is too small as it clips the driver easily. after

    removing the bass boost at 30hz(6db) it got better but still can clip

    easily. other than that its a solid sub/amp/cab combo. well built and good sounding imo.

    scp53

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