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I am sure they would work, how well I don't know. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk

I am using an Onkyo TX-NR636 AVR. I don't do forum signatures, I find them distracting. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk

The center is not that small, especially compared to other manufacturers offerings. It may appear small because it is atop a 73" TV? There is no plans to make a larger one in the Premiere line at this time. I would never say never.

Yes, they certainly will work great when used on side walls as surrounds such as in a Dolby Atmos soundtrack.

No, that is another type of WDST Klipsch style surround.

While not ideal, it should still work. If those beams were over a couple foot thick, then maybe not very good at all. Think of how pressure from a water hose distributes over flat concrete. It hits in a very narrow beam, then shatters across a wide plane. That may be a bit extreme, but you get the idea. A few bumps don't stop the flow entirely.

It does tell you something, it tells you you are buying a product that is certified to give you a great Atmos experience. People who design this stuff really do put in hours of R&D. They test many different configurations until they find the best solutions. This applies to more things than just Atmos, I am talking in general about different audio technologies. Yes you are hard to please, and that is okay.

I can't make out exactly what the ceiling looks like. Can you show a shot from the listening position?

I don't, as I did not test for that. I will defer to the power compression requirement set by Dolby; it passed!

I hope to make this thread informative, and maybe turn it into a Q&A for all things Atmos related. I have a 5.2.2 system that I am testing at home. I have been using this system for a few months now. It is without a doubt the best HT experience I have had to date. The immersive experience offered by Klipsch Atmos products is simply stunning! As you will see in the pics, IT WORKS WITH VAULTED CEILINGS!! The system consists of an RP-450CA, RP-280FA, RP-140SA, and 2 R-115SW. As soon as I can get a more capable receiver, I will expand the system.

(minor editing by me for clarification)The problem is you are using the expression "keep up." I'm not sure that concept applies the way you are using it. I am questioning the expression because of my own experience switching to 5.1 just a couple of years ago. I was so used to sound in stereo (which I now understand is "2.0" ) that when I went to 5.1, the CONCEPT and the sound stage was so different I was completely lost. I no longer needed all the speakers to be the "same" or even sound the same. The center speaker is now so fine tuned for vocals. Surrounds are now needed to produce gun shots and crickets chirping, big full bass need not apply. Now we have Dolby Atmos speakers which don't produce LOUD, but adds FULL to a three dimensional sound stage by bouncing sound off the ceiling. I have just now arrived at beginning to understand surround sound. With Atmos, I am once again lost. Can the new Atmos speakers "keep up" with the strong Klipsch L/R/C and surround sound speakers Klipsch is famous for? I think the concept of "keeping up" might be an antiquated expression referring to the sound stage of a by-gone era. If an Atmos module "meets Atmos specs" that might be the only criteria one need ask about. It's a new (Atmos) world. im not sure how else to explain what I'm saying? I can assure you that if I put an rc-62ii between my cinema left and right speakers it would be drowned out at a certain point on the volume and would just be left behind IF I was to go any louder. That is what I am saying. I guess they would be fine for real world listening levels. Just wondering for demo purposes and getting a little crazy with the volume if they speaker could stay behaved or would it be at its max acoustic output? If this is still to hard to grasp what I'm saying don't worry about it. I'm sure I'll eventually end up with these or the towers as I like trying all new Klipsch products. So if not I will find out for myself one day. I do understand exactly what you are saying. Remember when you calibrate the AVR, the trim levels balance it all out. What you are implying happens at REALLY loud levels, like beyond reference levels. This has nothing to do with Atmos, but as you have stated just a simple sensitivity difference.

BTW, here is the official spec sheets. Seems appropriate for the title of the thread. RP-140SA - Spec Sheet.pdf RP-280FA - Spec Sheet.pdf

Yes, I'm glad there an option with Dolby Atmos. Positioning is important for those wanting to use in-ceiling speakers, and the right amount of toe-in on those using reflecting speakers. I have heard it both ways (in-ceiling and reflecting). For me the in-ceiling speakers gave slightly more pinpoint imaging, but it's not drastic enough that you lose anything by using the refective approach. To that point I would add I found it more "distracting" than the diffused sound of up-firing speakers. Both options sound great in their own way.

They seem to in our system at Klipsch. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk

45 degrees would not be correct for Atmos. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk

These meet the requirements set by Dolby. They will do their job according to Dolby no matter what other speakers are used with them.

nice photos! Who did you place your order through?

The supply works as is with 220V, the only thing you need is 2 AC cords which should be a few dollars each. You could also use some wall adapters, though the first option is "cleaner".

The RP-140SA has a built in keyhole mount. They can be used as monopole surrounds as an option. I am currently using them this way with my Atmos system. The binding posts/input cup were designed so the wire could exit WITH banana plugs in either position.

Yes, though balance is key. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk

Dolby, THX, DTS, and pretty much all others use the layout specified by the ITU. Dipoles/Bipoles should always be as close as possible to 90 degrees, and not behind you. Monopoles should be behind you as we are less sensitive to direction of sound on the backside of our heads.

The RP-450CA is the same as the non "A" version except for the veneer option. Klipsch felt it appropriate to match the LCR finishes for the Atmos line. As for the magic in the crossovers, yes their is. And NO I will not speak of it as that may cross the line with Dolby IP. What I will say is part of the magic that makes them work, is the reason a traditional speaker won't work as well. Dolby has spoken very highly of our designs.Our Dolby Enabled Atmos speakers are a step up above the rest. The contents of the speakers alone should speak to that compared to other options on the market. Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk

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What the original poster is describing to me sounds like 4 speakers mounted 7ft high on the wall slightly angled down to the listener. This would not be a standard Atmos install. This sounds closer to an Auro-3D speaker layout. If you want to adhere to a strict Atmos configuration, you need to mount to the ceiling. If you haven't already done your AVR research I can tell you it will take over $1,000 to get a .4 Atmos capable AVR. Below that, you will only be able to get .2 Atmos channels. There is an option to use "front height" speakers (ala PLIIz style) assigned to the Atmos channel configurations listed in Onkyo receivers. I have not tested this, but it sounds like it could be an option. In my listening experience the more diffused the Atmos channels, the better the effect.