Himanshu_S

Is bi-wiring recommended for the F3's? and does it really improve the sound? I did have bi-wiring at one point but at the time I had bad speaker setup and I thought the bi-wiring messed the up sound so I switched it back. But now I wanted to ask you guys if you know for sure that it would improve the sound. This is for Synergy F3's and HTR-5790. Thanks for replies.

here's the after setup. HUGE difference in sound.

Here's the before setup.

No. The grills on my F3's are pretty good in terms of staying on. I do like the F3's look compared to SF3. So far so good in terms of bass with F3's. The sound is LOT better now and the imaging has improved since the speakers are now further apart.

Allright sorry about last post. I was really sleepy and I kinda just started rambling off in the last sentence there. Now to the speaker testing. I did believe that my speakers were just as good as the SF3, if not better. So now it had to be the room or polarity. So I moved the speakers to corners as per above. The rack was moved next to the TV on the left and sub was moved next to TV on the right side. The speakers were in corners and facing the listening position(angled). The sound improved quite a bit and the bass is now same as at my friends house. Today was the first time these speakers sounded the way I wanted them to sound like since I got them. Also, about the phase thing. I don't think they are out of phase. I ran AVIA setup and confirmed that they are not out of phase. First, a big THANK YOU to all of you. Second, an apology to Klipsch in blaming the port design change. Third, Thanks to Klipsch for having kick *** sounding speakers. Finally, No I will not sell my F3's or trade them for SF3's

Ok. today I took my speaker to his house to see how it fares at his place. and wow there was no difference between his SF3 and my F3. Actually the F3 sounded a little bit clear than the SF3. However, when I brought it back to my place the bass is gone! Here's what I have tested so far to find out what the problem is: Following applies to all tests depending on the receiver used. 1. STRAIGHT EFFECT in 5790 or "EFFECT OFF" in 5280. 2. 2-channel music only(Mostly rap). 3. Volume control was never changed during testing. Testing in my house: 1. Fronts facing my rears, next to TV. approximately 3 feet away from back wall. Outcome: Very little bass. 2. Same as one but with speakers about 5 feet from back wall and at angle like \ TV / Outcome: Very little bass. 3. Used Yamaha's mic to equalize all of the speakers. Outcome: No difference. 4. SF3 sounded very good compared to F3's. Testing in my friends house: 1. SF3's - Fronts facing in angled direction about 2.5 feet from back wall. Outcome: damn good. 2. Same as above with F3's sounded just as good. Now this lead me to believe that it was my receiver causing this. However, I tried a pioneer and it sounded the same in my room. what is the recommended to set it at large.

Please see attached file for the room setup. For some reason,the room didn't show properly in the post due to formatting problems. It has to be black since all my other speakers are black. The speakers at vanns.com looks good and are at good price but what do i do with these two speakers? room1.txt

The problem is that his has the bass that should be there when there are two 8" woofers in one floorstanding speakers which supposedly goes down to 35Hz. The main purpose of floorstanding speakers is that you don't need the sub when playing 2 channel music. My room size is 20x12. I am not sure what difference does it make since the speakers were placed next two each other and receiver was set to fixed volume during testing. My listening position was same for both speakers. The receiver settings were not changed during testing either. Please see attached text file for room setup. Listening position was at the word "HERE". It actually didn't matter with SF3 but F3 was really bad on the right side and little bit better on the left side compared to listening postion at the word "HERE". The SF3 was placed right next to the right front speaker. RK. in above stands for the Audio Rack. Front speakers faced towards the rear speakers. The speakers were set to LARGE on the yamaha HTR-5790 receiver. Thanks.

I have the 5790 and to me it's a great receiver. I also compared it with the highly recommended pioneer 1014 and decided to keep the 5790 because it sounded more natural than the pioneer. The pioneer had everything almost exactly same as the 5790, however the sound was more mechanical(to my ears) and at times sounded harsh to me. The above receiver on sale is good too and it's not bad for the price at all. However if you still would like to purchase the 5790 then I would recommend that as well.

I bought the F3's because I had listened to the SF3's at my friends place. Well now I'm into two months after purchase(because my friend went out of country right after I got my speakers) and I just had a chance to compare the F3's with my friend's SF3's side by side. And I was TOTALLY DISSAPOINTED! I have no idea where people get even the slightest idea that the F3's are more compared to the reference series. It doesn't even come close to SF3's! I hope the reference series doesn't sound like this one. The SF3's had a LOT more bass than the F3's. The only difference I saw was the port design. The SF3 were rear ported while the F3's are front ported. I thought this wouldn't make that much difference. But when I turned my F3's 180 degrees and only then I got the bass that I heard from the SF3's. Now I am out of the return policy period so I can't return these. I don't know what to do with these speakers! Very very dissapointing experience. The worst thing is that I can't get another set of fronts to replace these crappy speakers because all of my other speakers are Klipsch. BTW, the test was only for 2 channel music. For movies, obviously the LFE goes to the sub so it's doesn't matter if my fronts are bad in bass. I want to hear from Klipsch on what they have to say about the difference between SF3 and F3 and why the port design change? Also, is it possible for me to exchange my F3's for SF3's?? I will do it in a second!