bibundytime

Close...the pipes are actually running down the blue exterior wall next to the wall you moved in. The HVAC however sits right up next to that wall with the posts about where the pool table would be (per your drawing it would be out on the floor now). I just didn't draw it in. The builder must have intended for the wall to go how I have it because he left just enough space to add a wall and keep it within code of not being too clsoe to the HVAC unit. It would have been nice if he would have moved it further down. He could have just as easily moved those pipes over too and freed up the whole area. That would have really helped open things up.

Rob, You are about right on the demensions of the room. The ceiling is 9'. I would like to make the space a little wider, but in addition to the columns, the HVAC sits right out next to the wall where the column would be. The long narrow storage toward the bar has plumbing pipes running down the wall. I could gain a couple feet in the front or back, but this would also put the columns out in the open, which I am not keen on. The house was already built when I bouugt it. It sucks that the builder didn't put a stronger beam in. It is my understandig for the distance and a nominal fee for a bigger beam that you wouldn't need columns. I am not going to complain though, at least all of the utilities were thought out with some common since and consideration for the future. I know too many people with the sump pump next to the window, the electric box next to the other, the HVAC right in the middle of the room and the stairs ending 3 feet in front of a concrete wall. It will be close for an 8' table, but it falls within reccomended specs by less than a foot. All considering, I will probably stay the course.

Glenn, Your website and basement are great. Thanks for sharing. That place is a regualr man-hole. I bet your buddies always want to hang out at your place...I would. I am going to study the pics some more later. I was going to go with the white RC-7's in the back, but I am convinced that black is the way to go now. I like the black wall and ceiling you have too, although I am a little skeptical that my wife would go for that. She wants one of those dark copper tile jobs on the ceiling that look like old buildings. I am afraid that crap is going to vibrate too much. That's all I need when a movie is dropping some big base to shake the hell out of my ceiling like a wind chime. Are those projectors good for every day casul TV watching too? Do they work well with the lights on? I hear what you are saying about the in-walls.

colterphoto1, I have been impressed with the Reference speakers I have heard. I have never heard Cornwalls. Why are they your choice a la creme? You can only move in if you have a big boat and a hot daughter. Oops, don't tell my wife I said that.

Edwinr, I have never seen a projector instalation, so I don't know if I am game for that suggestion just yet. I am going to look into it though. I could move the wall with the TV back 4' adding room and eliminating the need to potentially move the window, which I am not necessarily excited to do. Floor standing speakers in the corners would pretty much be out of the way, so maybe I could get used to that idea too. Some of the receivers I looked at had the sound equilization deal. I didn't give it much thought, though I am glad to hear it works well. I have always had Yahmaha receivers which I have looked at again. I may also have an in on a deal on Harmon Kardon or Onkyo equipment. I'll be looking to figure that out too.

The wall with the TV is penciled in to be an actual wall. If you walk though the door going under the stairs, it opens to the right with a little less than 4' to the foundation walls. The ceiling is 9'. It is concrete half way and wood to the top on the outside wall. It looks like it is a seperate room, but the partition next to the stairs is just an overhead steel beam. I may move the windows on that wall back a couple of feet as they would be right up on the front wall if I do this.

I just joined the forum a few days ago and made a post in the HT section almost immedietly, then read quite a few more of the other posts and realized 2 things 1) I don't know as much about HT as I thought I did 2) I need to get some advice on how I should finish my HT in my basement from people with more experience that know more about this than me. I currently have the following in my hearth room: RCW-5's front RCR-5's Rear KSW-12 Sub SC-5 Center I plan to start finsihing my basement in the near future and want to definetly take this to a new level. I have attached a rough draft of the anticipated plan. Note HT in the front, pool table behind, then the full bar. I know that it is probably not the best layout for a dedicated media room given the long open room and the open area toward the stairs; however my wife and I entertain frequently and we want to have a multifunticonal entertaining area. I suspect that this is where the family will watch TV most of the time too. Note that I intially envisioned building a 62"+ TV behind the wall. I also anticipated putting some RF-7's behind the wall with some custom grilles, but I didn't think about the rear firing ports. Then I had the bright idea to use the RB-7 instead because it had forward firing ports. Damn...even the RC-7 has rear firing ports. I was hopeful for a clean install with few lines in the room (speakers not seen), but maybe there is a better way to build this thing or am I stuck with in-walls. I have received a couple of suggestions to go for a front projector, which I will look into. I have never seen one installed so I don't really have a point of reference to compare. Let me know what you all would do with this floor plan. I appreciate any and all suggestions. Thanks

OK, thanks. I understand the problem now. I thought of an alternative solution. What if I went with the RB-75 instead of the RF-7? I noticed that the ports were on the front of the bookshelves. Would I be taking a big step down from the RF-7 if I went this route?

Sorry...apparently the forum does not allow for uploading of a PDF. I noticed a JPEG in another post. I will try that format.

Thanks for the suggestion. If I understand your drawing correctly, I think that is basically what I had in mind. See the attached PDF drawing of my plan. The speakers are not on there yet, but I anticipated them behind the wall like the TV. there is about 4 feet between the false wall and the basement wall. Does the sound fire forward from the speakers or do the ports in the back affect the sound you would hear on the front of the wall as well? In the in-wall setups like this I have seen. They have had a subs behind the wall. I think they have the ports facing the grilles built into the wall though.

My first experience with Klipsch was because the first house I bought had in-walls that were left from the previous owner. I don't recall the model numbers (they had two woofers with a tweeter horn in the middle). I bought a center and 12" sub to match and it rocked. I was shocked from the power from such small speakers. I was in my early twenties then and the police came over more than once from the boom reported a block away with the windows and doors closed. I bought a new home 3 years ago and left the old Klipsch's behind. I immedietly added new RCW-5s to my hearth room in the new home to recreate my Klipsch experience. Needless to say, times have changed. A new wife and baby pretty much preclude the opportunity for a noise complaint, but I still enjoy the rare opportunity to let the speakers rip. In the very near future I am going to finish my basement. The plan is to put a 62-72" DLP Projection TV behind the wall, so the screen will appear built into the wall. I like the in-walls I have had and have now; however I am considering going for more i.e. the Ref 7 series. I would like to have all of the front speakers and audio componets built flush into the front wall. I am less concerned about the rears. I am still probably about 90 days out of reaching an instalation point for my vision, but I am trying to get the game plan figured out now for what I am going to do and would appreceate some advice from whoever may have some. 1) Has anyone ever set RF-7s behind a wall? 2) Does this pose a sound quality issue? I envision having them set behind the wall with a metal grille built into the wall. I prefer a clean installation. 3) I did some research online regarding where to find custom grilles to build into the wall in front of the RF7s; however have not found exactly what I need yet. Any reccomendations? 4) Another thought was to frame the walls to fit flush with the front of the speakers, althought I don't think this install would look as clean. I guess my biggest question is if this is possible or feasible with tower speakers. I have seen it done with in walls before. Thanks for the suggestions.