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Forgive my ignorance but are you saying that the Reference series is lacking in the midrange when compared to the other styles? I thought that the RF7's were a three way design. Again forgive my ignorance but there are three drivers in the RF-7 cabinet.

Doesn't anyone have any insight on this subject?

Hi all, I am reletively new to Klipsch. I have a 5.1 set up with RF-7s (mains), RC-7 (center), RS-7s (surrounds) and anr RSW-12 (sub). I primarily use the system for two channel (plus sub) audio but do watch an occasional DD movie/HDTV program. I love the sound of these Reference line of speakers and they really slam. I can, although I do not often do it, play to near concert levels (+/- 110 - 115db) with absolute crystal clarity. I read this (and other forums) regularly and often read of folks expousing the virtue of the "classic" Klipsch speakers. Since I have never heard any of them I am curious as to how the sound compares to the Reference set I have. I am not looking for this speaker sounds better than that speaker kind of comparison but rather a comparison of the properties of the sound created by these speakers. For instance although I like my reference speakers some of my friends who listen to them comment that they are a bit "bright" or "harsh". These are the types of sound quality comparisons I would like to hear. What do ya think? Steve

Bump...No ideas??

Hello all, <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> I hope somebody can help me out here. I am having problems with my RSW-12 subwoofer. The problems started a couple of months ago when I noticed that my sub was not working. I say noticed because my HT system is used primarily to watch the evening news and a couple of weekly dramas on TV. It is only occasionally on the weekends that the wifey and I sit for a few hours of music that the sub even comes on (we use the auto-on feature so it is usually off). Any way when I notice that it was not working I contacted Klipsch and they were very helpful in helping me to identify the problem. It turned out that the driver was shot (showed dead open with an ohm meter) and that the amp/controller was also fried. I got a replacement driver and sent the amp/controller unit back to Hope for repairs. I asked the folks at Klipsch if they could look at the amp and tell me what went wrong so if it was something I did (push it too hard??) or something possibly wrong with my AVR I could fix it and prevent it from happening again. Due to the way they handle these amp returns they were unable to tell me anything. So I just put the whole thing back together and decided to just chalk it up to a faulty unit. Fast forward a month...I again notice that the sub is not working. I do the same tests as before and find the driver to be ok. So again I pull the amp/controller and send them to Hope for repair. This time I include in the package with the amp a note asking the folks in Hope to try to do a little diagnostics before sending it for repair. I did this at the request of the customer service tech I had been dealing with in Indy (<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Steve Phillips). Again I get my amp and controller back but no failure analysis of any kind. So I put the entire thing back together but do not hook it back up to the system as I am now seriously concerned that something either in the way I use it or in my system is causing the sub to get fried. I email Steve Phillips at Klipsch Indy customer support and tell him of my concerns. Steve responded that the first replacement amp I got was a rebuild but this one was a new one and that his techs felt that I had just been unlucky so far and should just hook it up and not worry. Well I am not so sure. To ease my mind a bit I decided to do a test. I connected an old inexpensive sub (an Optimus SW10P) into my system and disconnected all other speakers (so I could just hear the sub). I played the system for a few minutes and did not notice anything unusual. I then connected my RSW-12 and nothing. At the same main volume (on the AVR) and with both subs set to 70 on the crossover and 50% on the gain. I got nothing out of the RSW-12. I then noticed that at the volume I was playing the Sub was not waking up. Ah thats the problem (I think) and I increase the volume on the AVR. Finally the Sub does come on but the volume (the actual SPL of the sub not the volume control) is incredibly soft. Thinking that maybe there just isn't much there below the 70hz cutoff, I connected the old Optimus sub up and it was at least 3 times as loud as the RSW-12. What up with that??? The Optimus is a 10" 100watt <$150 10 year old sub. The RSW-12 is a 12" 650watt $1K 1 year old sub. What could be wrong here? Anybody got any thoughts? Thanks, Steve

Can somebody tell me how long the activity light (the red/green LED in the front bottom) is supposed to stay green after the source has been turned off.

About that turning them on and blowing breakers, any suggestions to suppress the thump on start up and the one after shut down when the caps in the amps finally give up their last?

This is exactly why I started this thread...I figured I should be able to get those kind of SPLs out of my system but I am not. It is not that I want to listen at those levels but rather I just want to know if my equipment is functioning correctly. If my equipment is not doing all that it should, I want to know so that I can track down the problem and get it fixed.

I guess I should have mentioned that for these volume extremes the speakers are out on the deck and nobody is anywhere near them. They are yard speakers at that time. And again since the amp is capable of providing 600 watts rms and the speaker only rated for 250 rms that seems like a recipe for some blown speakers to me. Am I wrong about that?

First the situation: I have a 5.1 HT setup which includes RF-7's (front left) and right RC-7 (center) RS-7's (rears) and RSW-12 sub. These speakers are powered by a Harman Kardon AVR 7300 (125 wpc). I often use the system for 2 channel (+ sub) stereo listening. Sometimes this 2 channel listening is at extreme volumes (parties mostly). At these extreme levels it was obvious that the HK AVR's amps were not up to the challenge. To solve this problem I added an Adcom GFA-555 to drive the RF-7s. This worked quite well but I noticed that the Adcoms clipping indicators were blinking (during extreme listening). To solve this I added another Adcom. I now have two Adcom GFA-555's one to drive each of the two RF-7's. These Adcom amps, when bridged and run as monoblocks, produce 600wpc. Since the RF-7's are rated for only 250wpc I am concered about damaging my speakers. Now the questions: 1) Is there anything I can put between the Adcoms and the RF-7s to protect the speakers from overdriving? If someone is going to suggest fuses then please indicate how I should calculate the amp rating of fuse required. Searching on the web I found these two devices Powermax - Loud speaker protector http://www.homestead.com/prosites-a...ndpowermax.html Dynastar Electronics - Speaker-KnifeII http://www.dynastarelectronics.com/ I am not an electronic guy and could not decide (from the web sites) how these devices actually worked and if they would do what I require. If anyone has any insight on either of these devices I would love to hear it. 2) Where can I find a device I can place between the amp and speaker that will show me how much power (in watts) is being drawn by the speakers. I am not interested in a typical VU meter but rather a true watt meter. Thanx, Steve

My RF-7s are only part of my HT system. The reciever is an Harman Kardon AVR7300. For the front 2 (my RF-7s) I have an additional amp (an Adcom GFA 555) which was added because the primary use of my system is for 2 ch. music listening and I wanted more power. Overall I am quite pleased with how my system sounds however, I believe that at high volumes the high frequencies are somewhat harsh. When I made this comment on another forum I was told, by a member of this forum, that DeanG had suggested, to him, that he add a resistor to the xover. This individual continued to say the mod was simple and made his speakers sound much better. Steve

DeanG if you happen to see this post could you please respond. I was refered to this forum by cecaa850 on another forum when I mentioned that my RF-7's were somewhat harsh. cecaa850 said that DeanG instructed him to add a resistor to the xover board on his RF-7s. I was hoping to find more information on this mod. Thanks, Steve