greg0320

Just purchased Paradigm Seismic 12. While feet appear to be supporting sub, carpet pile is so thick, I cannot really see any space between sub and carpet. What height should feet be raised on sub? Should there be a clearance between carpet and downfiring woofer, or as long as feet are supporting weight of sub, does it matter? Thanks Greg

I know that there are many variables to subwoofer placement, but given that it will be on wall with mains and TV, would it normally go between the two fronts, i.e., Front, Sub, TV/AVR/Center, Front; or just to the outside of one of the fronts, say about 12 inches? Thanks Greg

Thanks for the feedback. As to center channel, I went ahead and called right before they came and told them to swap out the RC62 for the RC64. My cabinet is definitely big enough to hold it and given what I am already spending, what the difference of a few hundred dollars more if it will sound that much better. As to the receiver, if I see it has a probelm, which I don't think it will, I'll just have to trade up. Greg

OK..I finally finished purchase, being delivered this weekend. My concern is whether I either under purchased AVR to speakers, over purchased speakers to AVR, or actually made a good choice. AVR is Denon 2807. Speakers are as follows: Klipsch RF63 for front Klipsch RC62 (debating on upgrading to RC64) for center Klipsch R5650-S for rear surrounds Paradigm Seismic 12 for sub I had a pretty good discount on all components, especially the RF63 speakers. Given that, AVR compromised only 20 percent of cost. If I exclude sub, AVR was 30 percent of cost (by the way, sub was equal to both fronts and center speaker). Should I be looking at a better AVR for this setup, or am I in right the ballpark ? Greg

Just needing assistance/direction for wiring new Denon 2807 for video and audio. Thought I had it figured out, but discussion with salesman has left me confused. Will probably need to work around issues with Motorola Cable boxes and HDMI connections with Denon, but ultimately, I would like to be able to watch news on TV without having receiver/sound system turned on. Salesman was recommending the following: HDMI from cable box to HDMI on TV. Optical coax for digital sound from cable box to receiver. DVD (Toshiba Upconversion Player) HDMI to Receiver for video Optical coax for digital sound from DVD to receiver HDMI from receiver to TV Didn't mention CD player connections (have Denon 380) I thought HDMI carried both video and audio. If so, why the need for the optival coax for digital audio? All input appreciated. Want to buy cables but not sure what to get anymore. Thanks Greg

RB62?? Definitely prefer floorstanding versus bookshelf for front speakers. Listened to RF63 and RC62 today with movie where dialogue is switching front left, right, center (Finding Nemo). I know that these are not supposed to match, but I think anyone would be hard pressed to tell the difference. When the RF82 comes in this week, I'll listen again. May come down to which front I like the best (RF82 or RF63) since I think that either will actually go with RC62. Greg

Ran across an older post of yours... "1000-1500 dollars. Again no shortage of units... Klipsch RSW12 or 15 SVS PB2-Plus or PB-Ultra Paradigm Seismic 12 (compact sub) Velodyne SPL1200 (very compact sub) Most will run closer to the $1500 limit. These should do no wrong,the SVS will go deepest with the highest SPL and if you need small the Seismic 12 is a great sub for all applications both HT and music.BTW Seismic 12 over a SPL1200 for HT and music. M&K simply uses woofers that do not move the amount of air the competition does.And displacement is a MAJOR part of the equation is the subwoofer world." Do you still feel that the Seismic 12 is better than SPL 1200R for HT and music listening combination? Greg

Anyone know the dimensions of the RT-12d and RT-10d subwoofers. Looking for something relatively compact. Thanks Greg

I really appreciate your input. However, while the Sunfire may be the best, I am really stretching the limit here from a budget perspective. Since I am really looking at a sub for movies, based on your comments, I am leaning to the Paradigm. However, I visited a store today to listen to the Paradigm. Since they did not have the 12, I listened to the 10. More importantly, they also had the Ultracube, so I compared them. Needless to say, I am confused. When both are set at same volume level (say 1 o'clock position), the ultracube actually had a higher output. The Seismic had to be set at almost 3 o'clock to deliver the same output. Now having said that, I did notice that the Seismic appeared to be a little bit beter controlled at the various volume settings. What am I to make of this? My assumption is that at really high volumes, the Ultracube will become distorted compared to the Seismic. Is that a correct assumption? Just looking for some expert advice on the dynamics of subwoofers. Thanks Greg

The question I was asking was... "Looking for a truly small sub and the two that seem to constantly show up here in this category are the Paradigm Seismic and the Velodyne SPL-R series. What are the pros/cons of each, and given room size of around 3500 cubic ft, will the 10's do in either one, or am I looking to require the 12's. While I listen to music quite a bit, still looking to the sub to give the added depth/bass (the type you can feel) when watching movies." TheEAR had some very good input (Thanks). Was wondering whether anyone else has had the opportunity to listen to these subs and has pros/cons and/or recommendations. Greg

OK...maybe it was just the room or the material I was listening to that was making this sub rock above the others in the room. I will admit that it appears when the requirement is a really small sub (comparatively speaking), two that are consisitently mentioned are the Paradigm Seismic 10/12, and the Velodyne SPL 1000R/1200R subwoofers. Of course, we have just significantly jumped up in price as well. Any thoughts on either of these subs? Greg

You probably recognize typ..meant to say Denon 2807. Greg

By the way, not sure if it matters, but AVR that I will be using is Denon 807. Thanks again Greg

Need expert help here. Since the RF82 was not in yet, I made the mistake of listening to Klipsch RF63 speakers. Excellent!! Issue is, accordingly to Klipsch, the best match based on same compression drivers (?), RF63 works better with RC64 center channel speaker versus RC62. The difference in price, and more importantly size, between the two center channel speakers is hugh. The RC64, being 4 6 inch woofer versus RC62 (2) represents a difference in width of 10 inches (23 vs 33). I would have never considered the RF63 given the price difference between it and the RF82 ($850 per pair). However, this store currently has the RF63 "B" stock a cosmetic difference which with black speakers I cannot see) at a price of $450 less per pair). Question is, since I am not really considering jumping to the RC64, does the difference in matching the RC52 with the RF63 regarding sound quality outweigh the cost benefit of purchasing the RF82 with the RC62? Definitely need help here. Thanks Greg

Thanks for the feedback. I was impressed with the RF63. Sounded very open, spacious. But was curious as to whether I could stay with the RC62 or have to move up to the RC64. If that is the case, just have to hope the RF82 meets the bill, becuase you're right...the RC64 is a big speaker. Larger then I want to deal with for a center channel speaker. Greg

Not sure about 7's, but the store I was in Saturday perhaps had RF63's on sale for $699 or less (normally $900 each), but the RF83's were still higher. However, I would suspect that you could get a very good deal being that they normally run $1250 each. Products were considered to be "B" stock (i.e., slight cosmetic imperfections), though I could not see any problem. Issue is, once you jump to one of these speakers, the chain effect may require you to upgrade all other speakers. That is why I am wanting to know wheather RF63's sound that much better than RF82's. Greg

Listened to RF63's in store today. Was very impressed. Wanting to hear RF82's in order to compare them, since I have been leaning that direction. Since they did not have any yet, compared them to the 35 which he said the 82 was replacing. Have to say, the RF63 sounded much better. Will wait until RF82 comes in to do real compare, but am curious as to how they will stack up to RF63. Anyne had the opportunity yet to listen to both RF63 and RF82? Opinions? Thanks Greg

Was in the store today and had a chance to listen to the Paradigm Ultracube they just received. I will have to say that of those I listened to (e.g., Definitive Supercube (10" model), Klipsch RW-12, Paradigm PDR12, Klipsch RSW 12), it seemed to have deeper, more powerful bass. Anyone else heard this new subwoofer? Impressions/thoughts? Greg

Soundbroker: What do you mean when you say " Only reason not to is if your have real close wall placement of your seating to the rear wall, in which case, R5800C's would be a better bet." Couch we are sitting on is right against the wall. Small end table on each side and doorways on side of each end table. Side mounting is not an option based on wall space and windows, and prefer not to go ceiling mount route (with cathedral ceilings and positioning of couch, this would not be the idea situation). When I asked the question of 5650-W versus 5650-S to Klipsch representative, he said that ceiling mount would be first choice, on-wall second choice, but if both those options were out, he would go with 5650-S and mount them about 5 foot off og floor and as close to the couch on each side as possible (just not directly behind). This would come as close as possible to obtaining diffuse surround sound I am looking for. He did not think that using the 5650-W would give me that effect (5800-W was not mentioned) given room situation. What are your thoughts reference his comments? Will mainly be using them with movies. For music, they'll just be to fill the room at parties. From old school, when rocking, prefer music coming straight at me.: By the way, any suggestions on a sub (room is 16x24 with cathedral ceiling) in the $500-700 price range? Thanks Greg

Will a HSU VTF3 MKII sub work okay with Klipsch speakers (RF 82's front, RC62 center, and R5650-S in-wall surrounds)? Also looking at Paradiagm PDR-12 and PSB Subsonic 6i subs. Thoughts? Greg

OK...have conceded with wife's wishes of using in-wall speakers versus on-wall speakers for rear speakers. Now the decision is whether to go with the R-5650-W or R-5650-S speakers. Briefly, main speakers are RF-82's, center is RF-62. Speakers will be in wall above end tables with couch in middle (i.e., couch sits against wall). Bottom of each speaker will be approximately 7 ft (could go lower or higher since cathedral celing peaks right about at couch), and they're be approximately 9-10 ft apart. Will primarily be using them for movies, but will have them on occasionally when feeling room with music during party/entertaining. Thoughts? Greg

Thanks for all of the input. I wanted to give you all a better lay of the room so you know what I am facing. Maybe that will result in different recommendations. First, room is 24 x 16 with cathedral ceiling (peak at 13 ft) dividing the length. HT unit is on wall opposite couch on the 16 ft span placing us approximately 10 ft away for viewing. Couch sits against the 11 ft stretch of wall between two openings. On one side of couch is door to hallway, followed by a 6 foot span of wall to corner of room. On other side of couch is door to kitchen/dining which is on about 4 inches from other corner, turning with a window about 12 inches down. Again, ceiling peaks at 13 ft about two foot into wall off door from hallway (almost over the end of the couch). If I place speakers on rear wall, they would be over the 11 foot piece behind couch and end tables. Was thinking bottom of speaker would be almost even with top of door jam on each side, which would be right at 7 foot. They would be about 9 ft apart. If I placed them on sides of room, one would be approx 11 ft from couch, and the other only about 5 ft, but between opening to kitchen/dining and window. They would also need to be mounted almost against ceiling (lowest point on each side) with top of speaker at about 7 ft and 4 inches. Not sure if these speakers (on wall being the RS52) or in wall (R5650-S) allow you to point/position horns. I do know that the RS52 speakers are fairly large (13x12.5x8.5 deep) and would look best mounted flush against the wall. Does this description change anyone's opinion or give way to any other ideas? Thanks Greg

Hmmmm...to keep my wife happy (who is not too keen on putting these relatively large speakers on the wall), I was thinking more like 4 ft or 4.5 ft above ears. Will this still work, or should I go for in-wall speakers like the forthcoming R5650-S? I know that I would give up sound quality moving to in-wall, but trying to reach compromise. If speakers are up high enough (i.e., above door jams on each side of couch), she MAY relent. If not, will have to look at other options. [] Greg

How high on the wall should rear surround sound speakers (RS52 for example) be placed? They will be on rear wall directly above seating (couch) at approx 9 to 10 feet apart. Greg

Looking at either the RS52 or R5650-S as rear surround sound speakers. They will be going above (over) couch we will be sitting on against wall opposite TV and front speakers (RF82s and RC62). Question...how much sound quality will I be giving up going with in-wall speakers vs the RS52s? Greg