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mike, i understand where you are coming from and agree with many points you have and i appreciate your position. i truthfully care about the klipsch company as well and have supported them financially with my purchases i would guess with more dollars than most on this forum.i would love to design my own speakers and build them to sale..but this was a one time project that i was doing for a past client, not a long term business venture i am looking to undertake. i work full time in radiology and hope to start medical school this upcoming year...so this was just a spin off of my woodworking. i have to say though its a bit hypocritical for some of the posters here who have encouraged other members of this community on their building of "clones" of klipsch speakers in other post ..and then they turn around and lecture me on the morals of doing so ..simply because these cabinet bins..not even speakers... are not for me but for a client...and im not refering to you when i say that mike. while doing searches online..most of the information i found on klipsch DIY projects came from this community. blueprints, pictures, how-tos, diminsions, links, etc..and thats why i posted these questions here. in many post i read how this gentlemaen had built his own jubilee bins...http://www.jubilation.ws/...and for some reason you just dont see the moral issues come up in that lengthy post..but encouragement and praise. infact, hes taken down the site and posted : "Deleted due to unethical people trying to use my work for profit! " in all kindness, please feel free to put your site back up to show others your workmanship...i didnt even bookmark it. pictures dont do alot for me..i was looking more for measurements/blueprints. it does appear that he put alot of work into those jubilee bins and was rewarded in the end...i wonder if he sleeps at night? you know i think in the end i think i will just tell this guy that these jubilees are just too much trouble to build!

islander, i gather my customer does want to buy the bass bin cabinets from me...not completed speakers... because the price of assembling the speakers himself with klipsch parts would be much much cheaper than purchasing a complete set of speakers new from klipsch. price is often the reason you see many of the DIY projects out there. infact, like many here including me i doubt he could afford to pay 7k for a set of these. so i suppose his option was to pay klipsch 2k or so for the horn/driver/crossover and buy the cabinet from me...or simply buy nothing from klipsch. **However, Klipsch is not a long-gone company, it's still in business, so copying the factory's patented and trademarked designs for commercial purposes is quite possibly illegal. There are forum members who do restorations of classic Klipsch speakers, but manufacturing copies is a different story. -is this what you meant to say when you were replying to luvmykhorn building his own khorns/jubilees in this thread??: http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/105161/1061619.aspx#1061619 luvmykhorns: Ha... Turns out I'm just going to build a whole new pair i know this has been brought up quite a few times on this forum and well yes i have read most of the threads, and know these are tough puppies to piece together, but I've got a 30 year veteran in cabinetry on my side that i demoed my current pair to.. lol i love peoples expressions btw, when they hear them the whole jaw drop thing is great ... anyway hes got the tools and lots of experience, mind you though I'm not letting him build them I'm letting him tell me the best ways to go about construction. I'm going to be using the plans found here http://www.volvotreter.de/khorn.htm, along with the pictures he provided shouldn't be to hard. -your reply...islander -I'd second the Jubilee option. After all, they are PWK's (and Roy's) crowning achievement. See how to build Jubilees here: http://www.jubilation.ws/

tom, i agree...i think i did get off on the wrong foot. not alot of warming replys to start off. as far as my interest in horn speakers i have done some research..resulting in the purcahse of my klipsch rf83's rb35's and hopefully soon rc64 center channel.i am a diy'er like many here but not looking to redesign this speaker..just simulate it. i do plan on building these bass bins, not completed speakers, for a single customer and not customers as i stated above..i should go back and correct that...and while im at it will probably build a set of bins for myself. if they are the best sounding speaker many have ever heard then i wouldnt mind owning a set.

I'm curious.... is that another clone (for lack of better word) of something they're currently producing? I'm not too familar with SVS although I suppose I could get off my duff & go look svsound.com makes home theater subs. i currently own a svs pb12+2 which has 2 x 12" drivers. this last fall they offered a driver upgrade to owners for a fair price and i upgraded to the new 12.3 (not much difference) driver. my brother owns the same sub and also upgraded to the 12.3 drivers leaving me with 4 of the 12" svs drivers. the b4+ was a passive svs sub that used 4 12" drivers in push pull arrangement and puts out some quite impressive numbers. it was only made for a fairly short peiord of time...2002-2004 i believe and very few were produced. so yes, in short this would be considered a clone..and a perfect use to the 4 drivers i have left over from the upgrade. heres a link: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_3/svs-b4-subwoofer-9-2003.html

hi all, i am fairly new to the forum. i have been doing some reading on the klipsch jubilee and was hoping some of the members here with knowledge of these could help answer some questions i have pertaining to these speakers. basiclly, i will be building a set or two of jubilees coming up and was curious about different aspects of this speaker.i enjoy my home theater among several hobbies(rf83's,rb35's, no center channel yet, svs pb12+2, svs b4+ coming soon!)..but my true passion is furniture making. i built a pair of klipsch la scala's for a gentleman awhile back and now he is inquiring about me building several more pair..along with a pair of khorns and some jubilees. i am familer with khorns, although i have never built a set, but the jubilee was a speaker i was unaware of and i have been doing as much reading and research as i can...found lots of good into here. from what i read it is one of the best sounding speakers ever made. anyone who can help me with any part of these questions please feel free to chime in. -i read the speakers cost around $7000 a pair...what is the cost of the 402 horn and k-69 driver alone ordered from klipsch? and is there any other driver than the k69 that can be sustituted that sounds better at a similar cost? -i have read that there are plans/parts list of the componets available for the passive crossovers to these speakers..where can i find them...what is the cost to build the crossovers diy...and is there anyone out there such as deanG that sells them ready to go? -i followed along with the build of the fellow board member @jubilee.ws and it was very informative. are the plans for the jubilee posted online or available through any of the members here? -and finally, my customers interest in buying multiple sets of speaker cabinets from me has me thinking i am pricing my work to cheaply. what do members here feel is a fair price that i should be charging my customer for a pair of finished cabinets* for the la scala's.. for the khorns, and the jubilees? note* by finished cabinets im refering to only the cabinet itself in a finished state, either a black truck bed spray on finish or a wood veneer..price not to include driver, horn, crossover etc...he plans to supply those items.. -final note. thank you for any info you can provide me..here soon i will post some pictures of my progress. i also have in works a svs b4+ sub that i am starting on (4x12" drivers!) regards, matthew